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Rivera Hitting Road For Newton

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I laughed.

He may not be as "powerful" as Newton(Newton is about 20lbs heavier than VY) but he's the same height, and around the same 40 time as Newton. Power means nothing as a quarterback in the NFL anyways, Newton won't be rushing in the NFL like he does in college.

VY also played college for two seasons and dominated in both of them. His 2005 season, while he didn't win the Heisman(no one could have taken that away from Reggie Bush) he was one of the most dominant quarterbacks I've ever seen in college.

He was definitely a better QB prospect than Newton..

NEWS FLASH Vince Young was not the epic bust everyone makes him out to be. He's been as good during the season as big ben to an exstent. He's been to pro bowls,while his character hasn't been what it should he isn't a bust and his career is far from over...

I wouldn't call him a bust, but he certainly didn't live up to expectations. He also made the pro bowl as like a 4th alternate or something lol.

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Mike Vick had a low score. Daunte Culpepper had a sub 20 wonderlic and was an MVP. David Garrard had a low wonderlic. If I remember correctly McNair had a bad wonderlic and he was an MVP.

Wonderlic is important but way too overvalued in some people's eyes IMO.

I understand what you're saying but for every great quarterback with a bad score there are a thousand bad quarterbacks with a bad score.

It's certainly not the ultimate indicator for success in the NFL but it's a helpful tool.

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He may not be as "powerful" as Newton(Newton is about 20lbs heavier than VY) but he's the same height, and around the same 40 time as Newton. Power means nothing as a quarterback in the NFL anyways, Newton won't be rushing in the NFL like he does in college.

VY also played college for two seasons and dominated in both of them. His 2005 season, while he didn't win the Heisman(no one could have taken that away from Reggie Bush) he was one of the most dominant quarterbacks I've ever seen in college.

He was definitely a better QB prospect than Newton..

I wouldn't call him a bust, but he certainly didn't live up to expectations. He also made the pro bowl as like a 4th alternate or something lol.

Power means nothing for a QB? Have you seen Big Ben play lately? That guy probably holds the ball longer than any QB in the league, but he gets away with it because he's so hard to sack, and he's so hard to sack because he's as big and strong as most of the guys trying to sack him.

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Power means nothing for a QB? Have you seen Big Ben play lately? That guy probably holds the ball longer than any QB in the league, but he gets away with it because he's so hard to sack, and he's so hard to sack because he's as big and strong as most of the guys trying to sack him.

touche

still stand by VY was a better prospect, comparable athlete.

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touche

still stand by VY was a better prospect, comparable athlete.

Maybe. I can't remember who it was now, but some analyst said that Cam was ahead of Young as a passer already. I don't know how true that is, but from what I remember, VY was not exactly a polished passer coming out of college either.

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