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Mort Tweets QB Wonderlics

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SuperMan Newbie

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Not so sure about that with Gabbert. I read last year leading up to the draft an article about how a lot of teams are 'scared off' by very high scores because so few high-scoring QB's end up making it.

Right because its better to be a dumbass like brett favre, donavan mcnabb vince young or cam newton, lol a 21.... what a retard...

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Some scores for some of the others in the draft this year. Warning Peterson is one of the 5 lowest, a 9.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/03/17/low-wonderlic-scores-ding-elite-nfl-prospects

So was Gamble's.

Not interested in the wonderlic of CB's who mainly just need to cover one guy or area. As long as he can lace up his cleats, he should be fine. Athletic ability is everything.

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Matt Schaub 31 (0 Lombardi Trophies)

Eli Manning 39 (1 Lombardi Trophy)

Matt Stafford 38 (0)

Tony Romo 37 (0)

Aaron Rodgers 35 (1)

Tom Brady 33 (3)

Matt Ryan 32 (0)

Philip Rivers 30 (0)

Matt Hasselbeck 29 (0)

Marc Bulger 29 (0 as starter)

Peyton Manning 28 (1)

Drew Brees 28 (1)

Josh Freeman 27 (0)

Carson Palmer 26 (0)

Jay Cutler 26 (0)

Ben Roethlisberger 25 (2)

Brett Favre 22 (1)

Donovan McNabb 14 (0)

Sam Bradford, Oklahoma 36 (0)

Drew Bledsoe 36 (0)

Steve Young 33 (1)

John Elway 29 (2)

Michael Vick 20 (0)

Dan Marino 15 (0)

Terry Bradshaw 15 (4)

Randall Cunningham 15 (0)

so, your average Wonderlic for a Lombardi trophy using that list = 26.58

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So was Gamble's.

Not interested in the wonderlic of CB's who mainly just need to cover one guy or area. As long as he can lace up his cleats, he should be fine. Athletic ability is everything.

Unless he is asked to pick up a entire pro defense in 2 or 3 weeks because the lockout last until the end of August. Then he could be lost until the middle of the season. He does not have all summer to read and study the playbook, one that no one else on the defense will know either because it is a new system.

That would be my biggest question for this season. Going forward he should be fine but with the lockout this year.... who knows.

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Matt Schaub 31 (0 Lombardi Trophies)

Eli Manning 39 (1 Lombardi Trophy)

Matt Stafford 38 (0)

Tony Romo 37 (0)

Aaron Rodgers 35 (1)

Tom Brady 33 (3)

Matt Ryan 32 (0)

Philip Rivers 30 (0)

Matt Hasselbeck 29 (0)

Marc Bulger 29 (0 as starter)

Peyton Manning 28 (1)

Drew Brees 28 (1)

Josh Freeman 27 (0)

Carson Palmer 26 (0)

Jay Cutler 26 (0)

Ben Roethlisberger 25 (2)

Brett Favre 22 (1)

Donovan McNabb 14 (0)

Sam Bradford, Oklahoma 36 (0)

Drew Bledsoe 36 (0)

Steve Young 33 (1)

John Elway 29 (2)

Michael Vick 20 (0)

Dan Marino 15 (0)

Terry Bradshaw 15 (4)

Randall Cunningham 15 (0)

so, your average Wonderlic for a Lombardi trophy using that list = 26.58

I don't really see how you can use a Superbowl as the measuring stick. Everything has to go for you in a superbowl season, whereas the best QBs are the ones that get their teams to the playoffs time and time again and can win.

There's been 45 superbowls with some multiple winners. Does that mean there are less than 45 QBs in the history of the game that are any good???

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Interesting study done in 2004. First of all the average for the test in general is 21.75 with the standard deviation (SD) of 7.6. That means scores between 16 and 28 are not considered statistically different (don't mean that much).

As a predictor of success in the NFL in general there was little correlation. In fact there was actually a bigger correlation between lower scores and higher performance unlike the general public which they postulated was due to the fact that physical ability was nore important than mental ability.

At the QB position there was also not a significant difference. They also found that the Wonderlic did not predict success based on positional complexity.

They looked at race as an issue as well. The average caucasian score was 27.63 with a SD of 6.22. For African Americans the average score was 19.32 and a SD of 6.02. They found that the Wonderlic was not a significant predictor of success based on race but that race in general was a good predictor of success. In other words being black is a more of a predictor of success in the NFL versus being white. They did not break it down by position.

It is long and complex but addressed the issue scientifically.

http://psychology.uga.edu/people/bios/faculty/HoffmanDoc/Lyons,%20Hoffman,%20&%20Mischel%20(in%20press).pdf

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Interesting study done in 2004. First of all the average for the test in general is 21.75 with the standard deviation (SD) of 7.6. That means scores between 16 and 28 are not considered statistically different (don't mean that much).

As a predictor of success in the NFL in general there was little correlation. In fact there was actually a bigger correlation between lower scores and higher performance unlike the general public which they postulated was due to the fact that physical ability was nore important than mental ability.

At the QB position there was also not a significant difference. They also found that the Wonderlic did not predict success based on positional complexity.

They looked at race as an issue as well. The average caucasian score was 27.63 with a SD of 6.22. For African Americans the average score was 19.32 and a SD of 6.02. They found that the Wonderlic was not a significant predictor of success based on race but that race in general was a good predictor of success. In other words being black is a more of a predictor of success in the NFL versus being white. They did not break it down by position.

It is long and complex but addressed the issue scientifically.

http://psychology.uga.edu/people/bios/faculty/HoffmanDoc/Lyons,%20Hoffman,%20&%20Mischel%20(in%20press).pdf

KT called the NFL being racist.

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