Lmao the players have their wives crying for them now.

[blackcatgrowl]

That is also their choice. Vets, Firefighters, Cops don't get drafted so they are aware of the dangers associated. FYI Cops and Firemen have huge unions that look out for them just like the players.

Are you suggesting that players don't make a choice because they are drafted and don't know the "dangers"? Really? Seriously?

The players have to declare their intent to enter the draft... I believe that's where the "Choice" is made.

As far as them knowing the risks, I'm sure the countless stories of players getting hurt, or knowing players that got hurt in college and high school, is plenty enough information to know they are putting their bodies on the line.

Sheesh.

[Panthro]

Are you suggesting that players don't make a choice because they are drafted and don't know the "dangers"? Really? Seriously?

The players have to declare their intent to enter the draft... I believe that's where the "Choice" is made.

As far as them knowing the risks, I'm sure the countless stories of players getting hurt, or knowing players that got hurt in college and high school, is plenty enough information to know they are putting their bodies on the line.

Sheesh.

No and as usual you missed the point completely

[Stroupe-a-loop]

Are you suggesting that players don't make a choice because they are drafted and don't know the "dangers"? Really? Seriously?

The players have to declare their intent to enter the draft... I believe that's where the "Choice" is made.

As far as them knowing the risks, I'm sure the countless stories of players getting hurt, or knowing players that got hurt in college and high school, is plenty enough information to know they are putting their bodies on the line.

Sheesh.

. . . I think he is saying cops, veterans, and firemen choose their careers of their own accord the same way that the players do.

[BBQ&Beer]

Until the military gets million dollar contracts for deployments, patrols, combat, rescue ops, etc, then I have no sympathy. These guys peruse glory and riches, or men and women in uniform peruse freedom for us and others. How many NFL vets are sporting prosthetic limbs because theirs was blown off on fporeign soil for little more than minimum wage?

What about firefighters, cops and medics who go go into highly dangerous situations everyday, not just on Sundays to the benefit of others?

I'm not admonishing the owners either, but this is what's wrong with professional sports and our culture as a whole.

One immediately springs to mind. He lost a lot more than a limb tho.

[Future of the Funchise]

You know really thinking on it the way these players are forced to play football, against their will, is simply a travesty of the highest order. I mean, I just know that if given the option many would become an accountant. or would work at an animal shelter or become teachers or firemen or policemen etc.

But alas, Society has pushed them into careers that are dangerous for their health. Society has said to these poor, warriors "You have no choice! You must risk your safety!" and become multi millionaires in the process.

I thought this was America. I thought people had a choice. This whole situation makes me sick.

I thank God for this lockout and hope it is permanent. Only then will these brave, brave men be free of the slavery that is football.

I lol'd at this

[blackcatgrowl]

No and as usual you missed the point completely

No, I think you missed Jackofalltrades point.

Yeah, Firefighters have unions, but do they get compensated anywhere close to what a Pro-Player gets? Are Pro-players in anywhere as close to being in the same risk category as a Firefighter? Do you see a nationwide strike by firefighters?

But please point out some more irrelevancies as usual. Don't let me stop you.

[Panthro]

Still way off.

[blackcatgrowl]

Still way off.

So, I pretty much shot down your response, and now we're going to play the mystery logic card?

. . . I think he is saying cops, veterans, and firemen choose their careers of their own accord the same way that the players do.

If Stroupe-a-loop is right, then my response is still 100% spot on.

If you care to explain it further, be my guest.

[ThPantherFan]

Its not hate.

Its not being fooled into thinking that they are somehow special and deserving of something that a guy who spent his life welding boat hulls together isn't.

Those guys breathing the fumes from welding and cutting metals suffer sever respiratory illness too. The difference is they didn't make multi million dollars doing it.

[TheRealDeal]

It should be noted that none of us are on a coal mining message board talking about how much we enjoy what they do and we aren't down at the police station asking for autographs of our favorite patrolman every week.

Comparing professional sports to any other industry is pretty crazy.

Not taking sides, just saying.

[Panthro]

Stroupe-a-loop is dead on and you are completely dead off.

Funny how many die hard capitalists hate players for trying to make as much money as they can.

[ThPantherFan]

Until the military gets million dollar contracts for deployments, patrols, combat, rescue ops, etc, then I have no sympathy. These guys peruse glory and riches, or men and women in uniform peruse freedom for us and others. How many NFL vets are sporting prosthetic limbs because theirs was blown off on foreign soil for little more than minimum wage?

What about firefighters, cops and medics who go go into highly dangerous situations everyday, not just on Sundays to the benefit of others?

I'm not admonishing the owners either, but this is what's wrong with professional sports and our culture as a whole.

Now we're talking!

[Panthro]

Those guys breathing the fumes from welding and cutting metals suffer sever respiratory illness too. The difference is they didn't make multi million dollars doing it.

supply and demand dictates what they make. Just as in all jobs.

[Jackofalltrades]

That is also their choice. Vets, Firefighters, Cops don't get drafted so they are aware of the dangers associated. FYI Cops and Firemen have huge unions that look out for them just like the players.

Really? I wasn't in a union when I was a fireman or a paramedic.

My brother works for Concord Police Dept and he's not part of a union; I must be missing something.