Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Newton only similar to one successful QB in last 5 years..

TheRealDeal

By TheRealDeal,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

Eazy-E Mentor

Eazy-E

Posted
Posted

Clausen doesn't know how to execute the called plays.....he checks down or kills rotues/plays w/ his panic scramble. Clausen is the Notre Dame QB.....that weak stuff works against crap teams in college.

Where is Brady Quinn right now? lol

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TheRealDeal Newbie

TheRealDeal

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Because QBs selected after the first round generally aren't expected to be franchise guys anyway. Sure, you have exceptions like Clausen (but apparently we were the only team in the NFL who thought he would be any good.) but in general this is a good rule of thumb.

It would be like listing every dippoo who amassed 4000 yards passing in a pro-style offense at Nutsack Community College and got drafted in the 7th round on the off chance that they might one day be a serviceable backup and then saying, "SEE, TRADITIONAL DROP-BACK QBS DON'T WORK IN THE NFL!!!"

Well I think that's a bit extreme. This simply points out that in the last 5 years, only 1 QB that is considered successful has had over 105 rushing attempts in college.

The reasons for this could be plentiful.

The most intriguing thing is how people want to compare him to Ben or A Rod and stuff when he had AT LEAST 2.5 more runs than them in college. That's insane.

People assume he'll be able to change his whole game in a year or two AND get it up to the level of NFL starter and I just don't see it happening.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mother Grabber Grand Master

Mother Grabber

Posted
Posted

Clausen doesn't know how to execute the called plays.....he checks down or kills rotues/plays w/ his panic scramble. Clausen is the Notre Dame QB.....that weak stuff works against crap teams in college.

throwing mechanics are flat out horrible. Clausen throws a low and slow ball.....which means he can't throw over the middle. He neglects the majority of the field b/c of that.

Clausen didn't fit Fox's offense...which was fine b/c he wasn't drafted for Fox. Problem is they brought in Chud who is going to ask virtually the same things from his QBs.

Your original point was that Clausen has a lot working against him that Cam does not. However, many people point to mechanics, accuracy and lack of field vision as a knock against Cam as well. While Clausen may need to work on these things, so does Newton. So you cannot say that is something working against Clausen and not Newton.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted

Your original point was that Clausen has a lot working against him that Cam does not. However, many people point to mechanics, accuracy and lack of field vision as a knock against Cam as well. While Clausen may need to work on these things, so does Newton. So you cannot say that is something working against Clausen and not Newton.

Yes, they both need to work on things....as I said in initial post. Cam's issues would be easier for a good coach to work around......b/c Cam has more talent and the ideal size of a NFL QB. Cam needs to work on improving things like footwork and snaps under center...........Clausen needs to rework his entire throwing motion and the mindset he plays the game with. I don't see those happening.......that is the QB he was built into over years and years.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
teeray Collaborator

teeray

Posted
Posted

Your original point was that Clausen has a lot working against him that Cam does not. However, many people point to mechanics, accuracy and lack of field vision as a knock against Cam as well. While Clausen may need to work on these things, so does Newton. So you cannot say that is something working against Clausen and not Newton.

I would rather have a guy that has to change his footwork but throws the ball well upstairs, than a guy who is 6'1 and throws side arm. Clausen is going to have to change his entire throwing motion to be successful mechanically.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
davos Grand Master

davos

Posted
Posted

And when/if Luck and the other top choices in the '12 qb class have a bad or just an average year, and the media hounds, analysts and scouts rank the more popular of the group as 2nd or 3rd round quality.............. should we be patient and wait another year, for the right qb?

yeah

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sword Newbie

Sword

Posted
Posted

Who cares as long as he could pronounce it. What good is swag if you don't know what you are talking about.

(Erased borderline inappropriate reenactment of Cam talking about play design)

I know you don't care about Clausen so I'm not sure why you are defending him lol we must just be trolling eachother.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • strato
      Panthers HC Dave Canales hints at adding more weapons for QB Bryce Young

      By strato · Posted

      I am trying to remember when I EVER said reach for need. My thing if someone falls you jump, if you can trade back a few slots and get help at the right value and pick up some ammo to move up from 51 which I think is outside the money zone, then you do that.   Take a WR later. Plenty of capable WRs have come from the 3rd round. Though this year I would go for C there if there was a reasonable choice. Take a TE if you must. I see more reason to take WR than TE. I think you give guys drafted two years ago and last year a chance to develop before cancelling them.    I think it is kind of unrealistic to throw everything all in on offense in hopes of going deep in the playoffs after an 8-10 year, even if it did have some nice bright spots in it.    And outside of this argument but relevant to it, I am bothered by Canales and Morgan and their apparent posture that we have arrived and are now in the big boy club. I don’t know where that comes from. They are out there talking like they are winners at 8-10. Backing into the playoffs in a real convoluted tie breaker scenario. They had some good games, yes. But the big feather n the cap, the LA Rams matchups, did you see what the Rams did? They didn’t fire the coaches but they fired their defensive backs. Bryce beat them yes, and it was pretty, but it was kind of like the Bucs and Mike Evans picking on our decimated secondary in 2022. Someone (Wilks) went down for allowing that to happen and they went down in LA too.  Wr aren’t as good as a whole lot of homers think we are. Shore up the trenches.    I think too many fans buy into it because they are so starved for anything that looks like a winner. 
    • Raskle
      2025 Draft Re-Grades (Or, One Idiot Doubles Down)

      By Raskle · Posted

      How exactly does one win OROY "by default"? Wouldn't winning the award mean that of the two, McMillon stayed strong the entire year while the other guy didn't and fizzled out? That's like saying Secretariat only won by default because the other horse stopped moving midway through the race. Absolutely zero logic in that statement, which makes me very glad that I've never really paid much attention to Walterfoozball.
    • Basbear
      Who was the better HC - Rivera or McDermott?

      By Basbear · Posted

      I agree, teams in the past have fired the HC in order to retain a coach on staff...hell it happened to Mcderp this year, rams in the past and Im missing another.  The fall off for the Panthers team defense was huge once Mcderp leftd and Ron could not fix it even when he named himself DC. 
×
×
  • Create New...