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Clausen headed for infamous club


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CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Great stat from Elias Sports Bureau by way of ESPN Stats and Information.

With it looking like the Panthers will take Cam Newton with the first pick in tonight’s draft, Jimmy Clausen has a chance to join some pretty unflattering company. The Panthers used a second-round pick on Clausen last year.

Since 1970, only two teams have drafted a quarterback within the top 50 picks in back-to-back drafts. Both came in 1982 and 1983. In 1982, the Bills drafted Matt Kofler at No. 48 overall. In 1983, they followed by taking Jim Kelly at No. 14. Kelly went to the United States Football league before joining the Bills in 1986.

In 1982, the Baltimore Colts draft Art Schlichter at No. 4. In 1983, they took John Elway at No. 1. Elway never played for the Colts and eventually was traded to Denver.

But the moral of this story is that you don’t want to be the guy taken in the year before your team turns around and uses a higher pick on a quarterback. Heck, the true moral of the story is you don’t want to be Schlichter or Kofler.

Looks like Clausen’s about to join that club.

Read more: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/20506/clausen-headed-for-infamous-club

So this means Cam is the next Kelly/Elway, right?

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Newton will come in and immediately be given the #2 position....right behind the Vet we acquire to play until Newton and/or Clausen develops.

Clausen has the edge in having played college in a Pro Style system and having played and knowing the Carolina offensive scheme. Actually, the 'Carolina scheme' just might be a whole lot different under Rivera, so Clausen might not have THAT much of an advantage regarding 'knowing the system'. Both QBs will benefit from our new QB coach, but the difference will be in how quickly Newton learns and grasps Carolina's offense.

I feel a little sorry for Clausen - he got thrown under the proverbial bus, asked to step in when he wasn't ready last season. Unless Carolina wants the same thing to happen to Newton, he shouldn't make it onto the field at least until mid-season this year, if then. Look at Aaron Rodgers - he spent several seasons behind Favre, learning the system and being given the chance to develop before being given the reins. Newton is going to need some development and time to be developed further.

The guy I really feel sorry for, though, is Tony Pike. The guy actually has some skill, but with Newton and most assuredly a Vet coming in, he has been relegated to Practice Squad at best on this team and if lucky signs with another team and gets the chance he didn't get here.

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I honestly believe Moore will be given the starting role. I think he'll do well too. Not great... but decent enough to win. As I said in another thread... it's 50/50 that Newton comes in as the starter.

Jimmy... well... we just need to eat the money spent on him and cut him loose to free up a slot.

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