How will Rivera's defense be different?

[jarhead]

I fully disclose I am relativly new to panther messgae boards and a football fan but not an expert.

I heard him say we will have an attacking defense and our linebackers will be in more of an attacking mode.Can anyone explain to me how his defense will be differant from last years given the talent we have. Will he be playing a Tampa 2? If our Lbs are playing a vertical game how does that effect the secondary and DL?How will this effect our existing players or will he be putting emphasis on specific postions that we may have to pick in in FA market.

My uneducated take is he counts on the dt to hold the line which puts the lbs and des to put pressure on the qb.More of a blitzing scheme that Meeks deployed.Will his scheme dictate a differant skillset which we will have to address in FA

[JawnyBlaze]

You're mostly on point, it's a more blitz heavy defense. It affects the secondary in that there should theoretically be more pressure on the QB leading to more errant throws, but it also exposes them to more 1 on 1s and less help if the pressure isn't there.

In terms of skill sets, we need quick LBs that can blitz, but still play the run (Beason, TD, and Anderson all fit this perfectly) and we need a DT that can penetrate gaps and put pressure on the QB and a DT that can hold the point of attack and help out if the penetrator DT is out of position due to over pursuit (i.e. McClain and Fua, if they live up to expectations. Landri should be very good in the same role as McClain as a penetrator).

[JawnyBlaze]

For an example of the transition, what the Saints did when they brought in Gregg Williams is similar. Not in schemes necessarily, but going from a traditional less aggressive defense to a more aggressive defense. If it's executed properly expect more turnovers and possibly more big plays given up. If it's executed exceptionally, just expect more turnovers and shorter drives by opposing offenses due to more tackles for loss by our defense.

[thefuzz]

More 1 on 1's in the defensive back field.

More safety and LB blitzes.

More movement on the front 4.

More INT's.

More TD's thrown against.

Less 75 plus drives that take forever and wear out the D.

Look at Philly's D from 2006-2008 to get a better idea.

[Fiz]

DIFFERENT

That red line beneath the word wasn't complimenting you on your spelling.

[Hairless Cat]

bend not break

[rayzor]

probably posting with his phone.

anyway....

fox's "bend, but don't break" philosophy is getting replaced with a "kill, smash, destroy" philosophy...only a more disciplined and organized destruction of the offense.

where fox's defense was as predictable as getting the squirts after eating at taco bell, rivera's defense will be hard for offenses to anticipate anything that is going to happen, except that they are coming.

rivera and mcdermmott both come from the jim johnson school of coaching. the defense is a 4-3 version of dick lebeau's 3-4. zone blitzing and aggressive. CBs do a lot of man coverage. the front seven create constant pressure to the QB in that blitzes are going to come from everywhere. rivera, like johnson, both know how to find weaknesses and tendencies in the offense they are facing and rivera and mcdermott will be able to take advantage of it.

the good thing about rivera's defense is that you don't need stars. you just need players who go where they are supposed to go and do it quickly. mcdermott has a great mind, his problem in philly (other than the unfortunate role of being the guy who took johnson's place) was a lack of discipline in his scheming and play calling, which rivera will bring in spades.

thats my take anyway.

[rayzor]

bend not break

not

[malik]

DIFFERENT

That red line beneath the word wasn't complimenting you on your spelling.

does anyone here like you?

[thefuzz]

probably posting with his phone.

anyway....

fox's "bend, but don't break" philosophy is getting replaced with a "kill, smash, destroy" philosophy...only a more disciplined and organized destruction of the offense.

where fox's defense was as predictable as getting the squirts after eating at taco bell, rivera's defense will be hard for offenses to anticipate anything that is going to happen, except that they are coming.

rivera and mcdermmott both come from the jim johnson school of coaching. the defense is a 4-3 version of dick lebeau's 3-4. zone blitzing and aggressive. CBs do a lot of man coverage. the front seven create constant pressure to the QB in that blitzes are going to come from everywhere. rivera, like johnson, both know how to find weaknesses and tendencies in the offense they are facing and rivera and mcdermott will be able to take advantage of it.

the good thing about rivera's defense is that you don't need stars. you just need players who go where they are supposed to go and do it quickly. mcdermott has a great mind, his problem in philly (other than the unfortunate role of being the guy who took johnson's place) was a lack of discipline in his scheming and play calling, which rivera will bring in spades.

thats my take anyway.

Pretty dog on close.

The only thing I will add, is that we will fare very well against the bad, ok, and even good QB's, but the great ones will chew us a new one.

[jarhead]

Pretty dog on close.

The only thing I will add, is that we will fare very well against the bad, ok, and even good QB's, but the great ones will chew us a new one.

Yea I could see that will happen.From what I am learning or DBs will really have to step up there game or find ones that can.We have some pretty good QB/WR in the NFC south ie Atlanta that are going to command two really good dbs

[jarhead]

I found this article looking for Jim Johnson defensive.

http://www.scardraft.com/Johnson43.html

[SevenSixes]

The only SD torrent I could find was the Denver game from last year. My observations are solely from the looks in that game.

His D there looks like a 3-4 (3 DT's & 4 LB's) with big run stuffers in the middle much like the two DT's we drafted this year. They will primarily fill up the gaps between the center and guards and stop the running plays with hard hitting physical plays. The LB's will be "downhill" types (meaning their strength is in getting behind the line of scrimmage) that are fast and strong enough to get to the QB. Beason is exactly the kind of downhill LB that Ron will seek to acquire.

The CB core looks to play allot of man2man coverage so he'll want good cover corners (only Gamble comes to mind when I think of a "cover corner" but he's far from a "shut down" corner) that we will most likely draft next year. Attempting to get a "mirror" corner in FA is not only hard to do but cost you a ton because there's probably only 5 -7 in the whole league. These players are going to be the linchpin in preventing the big play. Normally though, the CB's are only asked to give 3-5 seconds of coverage because the LB core should make it to the QB by then.

Fox ran a 4-3 defense, so it will most likely take 2 years of drafts and FA before Ron has the players he needs to run the 3-4 effectively. Until then we will play a mashup of 4-3 and 3-4 as he works with the talent he as at hand. This season will be one of allot of transition on both sides of the ball. With a lockout shortened pre-season, expect more players to be out of position as they adjust to the play book. I also expect that some players will not have the talent that the schemes call for and therefore the defensive schemes will have to be altered to account for this as well.

We shouldn't be 2-14 next year, but with the league giving us the #1 over all hardest schedule, our record may not be significantly better even if our team is.

[thefuzz]

RR's background before SD was in Chi Town with a 4 man front.

I don't see us switching to the 34 unless management decides that's the best way to defeat Brees, Ryan, and Freeman on a consistant basis.