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there is like 53221352 people posting the same poo on twitter.. it would take someone dedicated to transferring their tweets to you, but they make a website where it'll do it for you.. called twitter...

do what you did to join this site, and sign up..

Is that you Ryan? my old Harkers Island albie buddy. lol

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josephperson Joe Person

Charly Martin and Chevis Jackson scrapping and yapping. Rivera not pleased, tells both to get back to huddle.

billvoth Bill Voth

Charly Martin and Chevis Jackson extracurricular broken up by McDermott. Then, they jaw at each other next play, Rivera furious.

John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

Smith excellent catch and spin. 15 minutes ago Favorite Reply

josephperson Joe Person

Newton intercepted by McClain on poor pass. 18 minutes ago

johnellis212 John Ellis

R. McClain with a nice pick. 19 minutes ago

Steve Reed

carolinagrowl Steve Reed

Thomas Davis with a nice INT of Newton in the end zone. 30 minutes ago John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

LaFell fielding punts. #panthers

35 minutes ago

Steve Reed

carolinagrowl Steve Reed

Mike Goodson left practice early. Not sure what the deal is. He's walking around (without pads) like he's fine.

35 minutes ago

Joe Person

josephperson Joe Person

Goodson says he's good, declines to say what he injured, if anything.

36 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

7 on 7 check down to smith

37 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

last live action coming up. jimmy in

37 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

special teams working their ass off

38 minutes ago

Steve Reed

carolinagrowl Steve Reed

WR Legedu Naanee is still working as the No. 2 receiver; Brandon LaFell is No. 3.

44 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

I feel bad for cam tonight. first time ever I haven't seen him smiling.

44 minutes ago

Steve Reed

carolinagrowl Steve Reed

Derek Anderson is actually getting some reps tonight. They are few and far between for the No. 3 quarterback.

46 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

back to special teams

46 minutes ago

John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

Goodson up and walking around. No cart so far, good news for Rivera. #panthers

47 minutes ago

Bill Voth

billvoth Bill Voth

Goodson walking in middle of field now, talking with DeAngelo and Stewart. Still no pads for 33. #Panthers

48 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

43 on the d breaking up passes.

50 minutes ago

John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

@PanthersUpdate Sat, 7:30pm...check local listings for the answer (I want to see it, myself)

52 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

da getting defensive bullets thrown at hit. these blitzes are coming from everywhere

53 minutes ago

Bill Voth

billvoth Bill Voth

Saw Goodson walk off w/Ryan Vermillion about 45 minutes ago. Looked like they were just going to re-tape. Staying under tent. #Panthers

53 minutes ago

John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

#panthers WR Smith...call him "The Transformer". Completely different tempo with 89 running routes, snagging throws.

53 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

cam looks defeated right now. him and jimmy talking to qb coach. his demeanor is different than I have ever seen it. shake it off buddy

54 minutes ago

John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

QB Anderson does not look sharp. Missing targets by fairly wide margins. #panthers

55 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

da sacked before he even took 2 steps back

55 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

now da in...skipped cam

55 minutes ago

John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

Clausen deep to Pilares, TD. Golf claps behind us. Perhaps the fans like #1? #panthers

55 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

jimmy to a wide open 81 for a td. looking like a real live qb. did I just say that?

56 minutes ago

John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

Newton nice in route to Naanee. #6 is having an exceptional night. Notice how hard he hustles after each catch, more than most #panthers

57 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

jimmy back in with a nice completion to olsen

57 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

cam with a nice throw to naanee over the middle. good catch

57 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

cam misses smitty with the under thrown ball

58 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

was under alot of pressure that time to. good poise.

59 minutes ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

cam with a beautiful pass and catch to lafell

1 hour ago

Bill Voth

billvoth Bill Voth

RB Mike Goodson had left ankle area being looked at a while ago. Still under tent, pads off. #Panthers

1 hour ago

Joe Person

josephperson Joe Person

Goodson under the tent w/ apparent foot injury.

1 hour ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

cam check down to dwill. seems concerned now with not making a mistake and taking the easy throw.

1 hour ago

Steve Reed

carolinagrowl Steve Reed

David Gettis is out walking around with a brace. Feel bad for him. Good kid. Going to be a good player.

1 hour ago

John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

Clausen deep in Naanee, big gain, great catch.

1 hour ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

cam in

1 hour ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

this time he hits the open naanee foe a huge gain.

1 hour ago

Brian Allen

Tattoorhino Brian Allen

back to live action and jimmy barely overthrows an open naanee

1 hour ago

Steve Reed

carolinagrowl Steve Reed

No. Has some swelling in the knee. RT @mikeobriant: @carolinagrowl otah injury serious?

1 hour ago

John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

Goodson under tent, leg up on bench. No word whatsoever on injury. Will see if Rivera comments later. #panthers

1 hour ago

John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

Might be, as has been said, Rivera's D, but McDermott is one of the more hands-on teachers I have seen of any past Carolina OC/DC

1 hour ago Favorite Reply

John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

#panthers observation: would like to see Newton working more with 67. Haven't seen it much, and none tonight

1 hour ago

there ya go

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johnellis212 John Ellis

#panthers : Clausen makes all the throws, Cam continues to learn the O, Davis, Munnerlyn, Gamble back. More later at the212daily.com

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John Ellis

johnellis212 John Ellis

Guys...per a reasonable request, no more reporting on formations/ gadget plays. Period. The end. Just a heads up if u see less of this

4 minutes ago

Bill Voth

billvoth Bill Voth

Thomas Davis now just a few days from return to game action: "words can't describe how excited I am for Friday night." #Panthers

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Evening, folks.

Very interesting night on the sidelines. Taking tomorrow off, as it will be a walkthrough/fluff interviews, so we will have more time to devote to launching other modules on our site. Podcasts, message boards (can't compete with this, of course), videos, X's and O's segments.

It's a work in progress. Thanks for supporting the site. Honestly, I will have more freedom from outside the ropes to deliver a more honest read on what's going on inside the ropes. Doesn't make sense? Don't worry--it's jibberish.

Tonight was compelling. Full recap later at www.the212daily.com.

I don't like predictions, but anyone who says that Newton had anywhere close to the night that Clausen did tonight is uninformed or has an agenda. I have no agenda, if you read my work.

Clausen would have to "sh*t the bed" on Friday for Newton to pass him, IMO. Just the way things feel out there at camp, to this observer.

Kudos to Joe Person, Steve Reed and a pair of PR/Media champs from the Panthers: Charlie Dayton and Ryan Anderson. Both were awesome with helping the "rookie" out.

Between my radio gig, the new website, and my work as a freelance reporter, this season is by far my favorite assignment--not because I am a fan, but because I can see the nuances and architecture of the NFL game right in front of me.

I'm trying to model my site, and subsequent podcast after a few sources:

--NFL Matchup Show (Jaws, Hoge)

--Sirius NFL Radio Movin' the Chains (Ryan, Kirwan)

--Greg Cosell from NFL Films (twitter.com/gregcosell)

We want to push beyond the "broad" opinions of "should this dude start" or "can Cam's smile transform a city", and keep things on message with pure football analysis. We're off to a good start, and it should only get better from here.

I will be in Charlotte for each home game, will full previews, in game tweets, and post-game reports.

In the mean time, keep checking in each day to the site, and follow me at www.twitter.com/johnellis212 (tweets are protected because, believe it or not, there are some hack-job journalists out there--not the ones above).

Thx,

John

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Sounds like Clausen had a great night.....but, as previously stated...I'm not very concerned about TC now. Ready for the live bullets this Friday. Some fold under pressure and some are "gamers" (did I do that right, Mike Rucker)?

he did play pretty well last game, maybe he can again.

Clausen would have to "sh*t the bed" on Friday for Newton to pass him, IMO. Just the way things feel out there at camp, to this observer.

you're literally the only reporter who hasn't been trumpeting "Newton to start..." you really think Clausen was good enough to hold off the allure of seeing what the future holds for now? Or was newton that subpar?

I really appreciate your stuff, John... keep it coming. :)

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they are probably installing parts of the offense that are pretty different from what he ran at Auburn - that was the explanation for his down practice last week I think, he was having trouble with the offense a bit. Not surprising, he is only a rookie and he's got a lot of ground to cover.

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Not practicing well as a rookie is a bad thing. That said, I think he is doing as expected and thing those with a Cam or bust agenda are making excuses for him. What they fail to realize is that for any player, especially a rookie, and even moreso for a !st overall pic QB, not practicing well and being known as a "gamer" is about the worst thing you could be.

I wish people thought before they posted.

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