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Scouts Inc top 200 players


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Don't shoot the messenger. That's this list per ESPN

I know...just saying it's bad.

This will give us another reason to say ESPN knows nothing about the Panthers yet cite them when they support our argument and when people disagree say we trust the "professionals" more because their opinion is always right.

Gotta love the Huddle.

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There is no way in hell CJ should be on that list.

Beason should be in the top 50 wayyyyyy before Johnson.

CJ gets to the QB......they always value that highly.

In 4 years, Beason has 4 sacks. Fair or unfair, that dings him pretty bad in a lot of eyes.

Rivera/McD will allow Beason to shine. Good thing we just extended him. They believe in LBs being playmakers more than Fox.

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yeah, but one year?

sum of those sacks came in garbage time LY when the tackles knew the game was already over.

I stand by my statement that the cats overpaid for this guy b/c he was headed to ATL.

it isn't a career ranking but a right now ranking.

garbage time sacks don't come to players on teams getting there ass kicked...it works the other way around.

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Yeah, to bad u need 22 starters.

So out of 704 (32 teams x 22 starters per team) starters in the league in Offense and Defense we have 7 of the top 200. So about 4%. Considering out record this year and we sure have a few players on the cusp of breaking through I would say that our team is under rated roster wise.

I wish people didn't expect so much for a rebuilding team. Lets be realistic no team is going to have a majority of starters on that list.

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So out of 704 (32 teams x 22 starters per team) starters in the league in Offense and Defense we have 7 of the top 200. So about 4%. Considering out record this year and we sure have a few players on the cusp of breaking through I would say that our team is under rated roster wise.

I wish people didn't expect so much for a rebuilding team. Lets be realistic no team is going to have a majority of starters on that list.

kinda was going for some sarcasm there. Never been a fan of Scout Inc anyway.

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