Mike Vick, The Mentor

[ItsPantone278]

[TheRealDeal]

Cam obviously feels Vick is a great person to take advice from, so whatever...

That doesn't give me hope for Cam...

Plenty of better mentors around.

[Floppin]

No. Not seeing a connection personally.

Well, by claiming that "He did his time, let it go" you're assuming that prison has fixed Vick. Vick had major ethical and moral failures and is just a downright shitty human being to be able to do what he did.

Now if you want to claim that prison served as a rehabilitation and corrected Vicks personal failings than you have to apply the same logic to everyone. In which case I'd assume that you would also be opposed to using background checks to discriminate against anyone for anything.

[Jrock88]

turned into a Mike Vick bash thread... who would have thunk it?

[jtnc]

How is a drinking a beer & driving remotely close to beating, torturing, mutilating, & killing an innocent living animal?

I'm saying that people can learn from their mistakes, and can educate people to not make the decisions they've made. How is that so fuging hard to grasp?

[PhillyB]

He can do positive all he wants. It's just a cover for the horrible human being he is. You can bet if he didn't get caught, he'd be doing it to this day.

you don't know that, you're just saying that. someone like tony dungy, who's actually knowledgable about the situation and the personal aspects of it, would likely rebuff your every statement.

given these facts, why are you being so irreversibly judgmental? why not give a fellow human being the benefit of the doubt until he otherwise gives you reason not to?

[boo7382]

The Cam haters are the same posters, who hate on Vick, what a coincidence.

Are they, also the ones, who over use, commas?

[GritsRgreat]

That doesn't give me hope for Cam...

Plenty of better mentors around.

McNabb

[teeray]

Would you let that guy babysit?

Asking Vick, a man who almost destroyed a franchise, got kicked out of the league, completely disrespected the game on several occasions, mentor a young man entering the NFL is a pretty dumb idea too, right?

Having our QB "idolize" that player is even worse.

I Mike Vick a veterinarian? I fail to see the correlation in your first question. Vick is playing football. :confused:

And I believe the greatest lessons someone can ever learn comes from those who have made mistakes.

[Swarly]

The last part of the season he went down hill when Defenses caught on.

Maybe, but you can't deny he was a new QB last year. He still went 10TD/6INT in the last 5 weeks and only one game with a QB rating under 90.

Not that the friendliest QB system ever had anything to do with it...

Never said it didn't. He still went from run first to actually going through progressions and becoming a passer rather than runner.

The Cam haters are the same posters, who hate on Vick, what a coincidence.

Please. Don't pull that bullshit card. Vick did some absolutely horrific poo, and just because he served time and followed a guide a team of publicists put together for him doesn't mean anyone has to forgive him for what he did.

[TheRealDeal]

I'm saying that people can learn from their mistakes, and can educate people to not make the decisions they've made. How is that so fuging hard to grasp?

If Cam is dumb enough to be told he needs to work hard, not kill innocent animals, not bring drugs on an airplane, and not flip off fans, he's not going to have a chance.

My guess? Cam knows those are not good things to do and he doesn't need some media grasp from Vick to get it.

[Gipetto]

[Udogg]

That doesn't give me hope for Cam...

Plenty of better mentors around.

:rofl: come on that's funny.

[ItsPantone278]

Well, by claiming that "He did his time, let it go" you're assuming that prison has fixed Vick. Vick had major ethical and moral failures and is just a downright pooty human being to be able to do what he did.

Now if you want to claim that prison served as a rehabilitation and corrected Vicks personal failings than you have to apply the same logic to everyone. In which case I'd assume that you would also be opposed to using background checks to discriminate against anyone for anything.

I disagree with your logic, but I respect your position. I feel like Vick did his time not only in prison, but in his community. Returning to his home and facing his past head on. I think every person and every situation is unique and should be treated as such. I don't like to lump everyone into one thing because every single person in this world is different, and every situation and interaction is different.

As far as the topic of the thread:

Cam hasn't been through half of what Vick has gone through in his career. If Vick says he's been there than man I believe it. He has seen highs and lows both on and off the field, in the media, with his teammates, in his community and organization. It'd be foolish to think that Vick couldn't offer Cam some advise.