3rd season for Detroit with stafford

[Guenhwyvar]

And now they are competing. First season with Stafford was also 2-14 for them. It takes time and defense wasn't good last year. We were not 2-14 only because of QB play.. A good defense would have given us a few more wins. We need more speed and strength in defense play. Once we get that we won't be manhandled. Only issue is smitty's time clock.

[YoungPanthers89]

so you are saying we are going to get calvin johnson?

[Gazi]

Elway was 1-9 and benched in his first game. That's ok

[Davidson Deac II]

Didn't Stafford spend most of his first two years on IR?

[Herbert The Love Bug]

so you are saying we are going to get calvin johnson?

That'd be nice :)

[SZ James (banned)]

So when can we expect to start winning games

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Best thing they did was run Matt Millen out of town. Once they got a competent GM and started drafting well and making smart moves in free agency things started to turn around. Cam playing at a high level has made it obvious we need more than just a QB. Can't put everything on his shoulders and expect him to carry a team stacked with waiver wire talent.

[Guenhwyvar]

Stafford played in 10 games first year

[Sam Mills Fan]

It's disgusting that people are resorting to having to compare us to Detroit. The Detroit Lions are the worst franchise in the league historically. Shouldn't we set our sights a little higher? From 12-4 in 2008 to the new Detroit Lions less than 3 years later...pathetic. FIRE MARTY HURNEY

[rico6]

I always lol when these terrible comparisons are thrown at this team.

Now people want to use an absolute dismal of franchise in Detroit, as a benchmark for this team.

Jesus, how far have we've fallen.

[Jangler]

So when can we expect to start winning games

based on Staffords career I'd say 2013

[MikeMGM]

Cam newton > Matt Stafford

[rico6]

Cam newton > Matt Stafford

Detroit's coaching staff >> Carolina's

[Pantherman]

It's disgusting that people are resorting to having to compare us to Detroit. The Detroit Lions are the worst franchise in the league historically. Shouldn't we set our sights a little higher? From 12-4 in 2008 to the new Detroit Lions less than 3 years later...pathetic. FIRE MARTY HURNEY

Agreed. I'm sick of Hurney period. He still get scrub players like John Fox still runs this team. Ron should not settle for Scrubs like Fox did. Ron should be demanding talent players instead. Hurney needs to go at the end of this season and get a better GM who can do it right.:crazy: