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Ron Meeks and Peppers...

SorthNarolina

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One thing i think people have completley overlooked is the possibility of peppers staying and how he will fit into ron meeks defense

The next name that comes to mind immediately is Dwight Freeny.

I think peppers is a better DE than freeny and about equal in terms of his pass rushing skill.

If peppers stays will he see the best production of his career?

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i dont think meeks DEF will do anything for pepp.its not like this new scheme is too much diff than are old one..maybe we stop droping him back so much but thats about it.

I personally don't mind seeing Pep dropped back some. It might not look as good on the stat line as a sack, but it can be very effective having a guy that is tall, fast, and has ridiculous hops help out on underneath routes from time to time. While I admit I don't have much game film (typically I delete my DirecTV DVR Sunday Ticket recordings after a couple weeks), I'm sure if you watch it you can see QB's have to make some adjustments because Pep dropped back and didn't just rush in. I know he hasn't had a pick in a while, but I'm sure he's helped some other guys get them, and a pick is WAY better than a sack. Just my $.02

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Well, it's possible... you didn't see Freeney dropping into coverage much.

If the Panthers really do want to keep Peppers, I would imagine they have already decided they are going to cut him loose on the pass rush and save coverage duties for someone else. I think it's more likely that Meeks would be able to connect with Peppers on a personal level and Peppers would gain a level of comfort and trust with Meeks that might convince him to stay.

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I see Meeks being brought in as more of a move to draw in the reigns so to speak. Get the core players to tighten up their play, stay at home so to speak.

I'm sure they'll be tweaks here and there, but it's still Fox's defense.

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i dont think meeks DEF will do anything for pepp.its not like this new scheme is too much diff than are old one..maybe we stop droping him back so much but thats about it.

I think it will let him focus on pass rushing more than he ever has. I also don't think we will see him drop into coverage very much, if at all (hence, more pass rushing opportunities).

The Tampa 2 is predicated upon the DL getting the bulk of the pressure on the QB, so Meeks coaches his DE's to be much more relentless in chasing down the QB than what Trgo did. Trgo was a believer in the read and react defense, and wanted his DL to maintain integrity, whereas Meeks requires his DL to be much more aggressive in pass rush. Of course the downside to that is inconsistency in run defense, but all of our DL (with perhaps the exception of Lewis) are better run defenders than what Meeks had to work with in Indy, so hopefully we'll have a bit more consistency than they were used to.

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guys bringing in meeks is going to have a negligible impact to the way they play defense.

Several players have already come out and said how different this defense is, and that Meeks is asking them to do a lot of things differently than they did under Trgo.

I think a lot of people are falsely under the impression that Fox is more involved in running the defense than he is because he felt the need to step in the last two years. However, prior to that, there was never a peep about Fox undermining Trgo or not letting him run the defense in whatever way he wanted. As head coach, and particularly one that was a DC, I have no doubt that Fox set the parameters, but that is his job. I don't think, though, that he took a more prominant role until he lost faith in Trgo.

Bottom line, I think Fox will let Meeks run his defense as long as he trusts the job he is doing.

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Several players have already come out and said how different this defense is, and that Meeks is asking them to do a lot of things differently than they did under Trgo.I think a lot of people are falsely under the impression that Fox is more involved in running the defense than he is because he felt the need to step in the last two years. However, prior to that, there was never a peep about Fox undermining Trgo or not letting him run the defense in whatever way he wanted. As head coach, and particularly one that was a DC, I have no doubt that Fox set the parameters, but that is his job. I don't think, though, that he took a more prominant role until he lost faith in Trgo.

Bottom line, I think Fox will let Meeks run his defense as long as he trusts the job he is doing.

very true if anything this will have a big diff in are linebackers and S,i think they have a lot of control over the field now if i am not mistaken

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I think it will let him focus on pass rushing more than he ever has. I also don't think we will see him drop into coverage very much, if at all (hence, more pass rushing opportunities).

The Tampa 2 is predicated upon the DL getting the bulk of the pressure on the QB, so Meeks coaches his DE's to be much more relentless in chasing down the QB than what Trgo did. Trgo was a believer in the read and react defense, and wanted his DL to maintain integrity, whereas Meeks requires his DL to be much more aggressive in pass rush. Of course the downside to that is inconsistency in run defense, but all of our DL (with perhaps the exception of Lewis) are better run defenders than what Meeks had to work with in Indy, so hopefully we'll have a bit more consistency than they were used to.

I agree....I think you will see the DE's pinning their ears back more under Meeks.

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I personally don't mind seeing Pep dropped back some. It might not look as good on the stat line as a sack, but it can be very effective having a guy that is tall, fast, and has ridiculous hops help out on underneath routes from time to time. While I admit I don't have much game film (typically I delete my DirecTV DVR Sunday Ticket recordings after a couple weeks), I'm sure if you watch it you can see QB's have to make some adjustments because Pep dropped back and didn't just rush in. I know he hasn't had a pick in a while, but I'm sure he's helped some other guys get them, and a pick is WAY better than a sack. Just my $.02

He had a pick in the Pro Bowl!!! If that counts. HaHaHa :D

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