Panthers helmet outside the combine interview room

[CatMan72]

If you need further proof, here's what I would suggest:

On a hot summer day, stand on your concrete (white) driveway in your bare feet... now walk out to the asphalt (black) street and see if you feel any difference?

Ask yourself why the concrete would feel much cooler then the asphalt?

Heat results in fluid loss, fluid loss affects athletic performance, therefore anything you can do to limit fluid loss (like wearing a white jersey instead of a black jersey) is a good thing.

(I still can't believe I'm having to explain this)

[rayzor]

Am I actually arguing about whether or not it's a good idea to wear black on a hot day?

yes. and most (meaning all) have white as there predominant home jersey.

it's not just a panther thing.

[The Pieyed Piper]

so the Panthers are getting camo unis?

[pantherpain]

yes. and most (meaning all) have white as there predominant home jersey.

it's not just a panther thing.

Yea, but most don't go all white with a bland silver helmet like we do. They mix color's in, like white shirt dark pant's and helmet that's black,blue yellow and so on.

[Cat'sGrowl]

If you need further proof, here's what I would suggest:

On a hot summer day, stand on your concrete (white) driveway in your bare feet... now walk out to the asphalt (black) street and see if you feel any difference?

Ask yourself why the concrete would feel much cooler then the asphalt?

Heat results in fluid loss, fluid loss affects athletic performance, therefore anything you can do to limit fluid loss (like wearing a white jersey instead of a black jersey) is a good thing.

(I still can't believe I'm having to explain this)

Except there is still no evidence to support the fact that the difference between the two is detrimental to the team. None. I'd say you don't get it, but it's rather clear that you do and you don't want to concede it.

It has nothing to do with being hotter. Nothing. Let me say this again.

It has nothing to do with being hotter. Absolutely zero. Players experience enough training, conditioning, and replenishment of nutrients that it doesn't place them at a disadvantage, and you cannot dispute that, because there is no evidence to support it.

It has nothing to do with being hotter (it's sad that I have to repeat that to you so many times). Can you make just one post, that actually deals with the topic at hand? Just one? Or will you run back to "Dude, black's hotter bro, everybody knows that, you'z so dumb"

I really, really doubt it.

It has nothing to with being hotter.

[XClown1986]

Speaking from my own experience, when I played football in highschool we had all black practice uniforms in the August heat. It sucked. They absorbed heat like a bitch, and made you pour with sweat. It felt like practicing in a sauna. It helped to condition, but every guy on the team that played JV, (who wore light blue practice jerseys), even said that those jerseys sucked worse to practice and play in. More guys cramped in practice quicker with black jerseys. Just putting it out there. FWIW

[Cat'sGrowl]

Speaking from my own experience, when I played football in highschool we had all black practice uniforms in the August heat. It sucked. They absorbed heat like a bitch, and made you pour with sweat. It felt like practicing in a sauna. It helped to condition, but every guy on the team that played JV, (who wore light blue practice jerseys), even said that those jerseys sucked worse to practice and play in. More guys cramped in practice quicker with black jerseys. Just putting it out there. FWIW

Of course, we did the same in HS. It's done in part, to build mental toughness, on the notion that suffering from heat, is, partially, a state of mind.

That, however is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand, regardless of what CatMan would have you believe. The issue at hand is- Is the heat absorbed by a black jersey debilitating enough to be detrimental to our team? The evidence suggests that it does not,

[MHS831]

I think that helmet says "HUTCH" in the front.

[MHS831]

With that logo, the helmet has to be white or silver.

[rayzor]

it's a well known fact that darker colors trap/absorb heat while lighter colors reflect it. this is backed by physics.

it's a well known fact that wearing dark clothes in hot weather can raise your body temperature and can cause heat exhaustion, heat stroke, heat cramps, and other heat related illnesses. in hot weather, to keep off heat exhaustion (that being a professional athlete doesn't make you immune to) you should wear lighter colors. this is advice given to everyone in all activities.

if people (players) are more prone to heat issues by wearing darker colors then it makes sense that it would be detrimental to a team.

that is why all teams in warm weather and at home wear their white jerseys and force their opponents to wear darker colors. it is also why those opponents will opt to wear as light a jersey as they can when they aren't allowed to wear white.

doesn't make sense to you? can't help you.

Except there is still no evidence to support the fact that the difference between the two is detrimental to the team. None. I'd say you don't get it, but it's rather clear that you do and you don't want to concede it.

It has nothing to do with being hotter. Nothing. Let me say this again.

It has nothing to do with being hotter. Absolutely zero. Players experience enough training, conditioning, and replenishment of nutrients that it doesn't place them at a disadvantage, and you cannot dispute that, because there is no evidence to support it.

It has nothing to do with being hotter (it's sad that I have to repeat that to you so many times). Can you make just one post, that actually deals with the topic at hand? Just one? Or will you run back to "Dude, black's hotter bro, everybody knows that, you'z so dumb"

I really, really doubt it.

It has nothing to with being hotter.

[Cat'sGrowl]

You're suggesting that

A) Other teams wear their light colored jerseys as often as the Panthers do for a supposed tactical advantage-they don't.

B) that the tactic actually works, which, once again, has no evidence to support it-which is the point-not any of the extra crap about black clothes being hotter.

[chknwing]

smokescreen

[Montsta]

You people are so f**king retarded.

By you people, you mean black jersey-liking people?

[CatMan72]

Except there is still no evidence to support the fact that the difference between the two is detrimental to the team. None. I'd say you don't get it, but it's rather clear that you do and you don't want to concede it.

It has nothing to do with being hotter. Nothing. Let me say this again.

It has nothing to do with being hotter. Absolutely zero. Players experience enough training, conditioning, and replenishment of nutrients that it doesn't place them at a disadvantage, and you cannot dispute that, because there is no evidence to support it.

It has nothing to do with being hotter (it's sad that I have to repeat that to you so many times). Can you make just one post, that actually deals with the topic at hand? Just one? Or will you run back to "Dude, black's hotter bro, everybody knows that, you'z so dumb"

I really, really doubt it.

It has nothing to with being hotter.

So you wouldn't sweat more on a hot/sunny day in a black uniform then you would in a white uniform?