ESPN selects Cam Newton's 2010 college season

[DirtyMagic97]

Plus agreeing to the hanging off dogs and "electrocuting and drowning dogs for amusement" is quite different.

They are different, but I can't say it's not as bad. Funding the operation, facilitating the venue, and agreeing to that torture is just as bad. Just because he wanted to keep his hands as clean as possible doesn't mean it's not as bad as actually doing it.

[carolinarolls]

They aren't different, but I can't say it's not as bad. Funding the operation, facilitating the venue, and agreeing to that torture is just as bad. Just because he wanted to keep his hands as clean as possible doesn't mean it's not as bad as actually doing it.

I see your point and I agree with you. I don't see this as a mastermind of the conspiracy situation though. This guy owned a house. That is the only thing ever proven against him personally. In the house he owned lots of hanus poo went down. In the case of pulling a trigger under orders from a mob boss, yeah the guy is dead and he who gave the order is guilty just like the trigger puller. It goes a bit further when you talk about this kind of cruelty. Kinda like most "hit men" would have issues with killing a kid or a woman, it takes a sick person to do what was done to these animals. I just can't see Vick ever being in the league again if there was ever any proof or real evidence that pointed to him actually "doing the deed".

Are both parties guilty? Of course. Are they both guilty of doing the same thing. I don't think so. I may be wrong about that.

[Jesse]

Hey this isn't a topic of race, but I'll make it anyways.

[King Taharqa]

So what do you call it when we troll a facebook page for a Saints*** event? Is that because the QB is black too?

I call being a lame ass with too much free time on your hands. If you had a life you wouldnt have time to worry about the Saints**.

The only thing I'm seeing from you is that the only reason you care about Cam or Vick is because the color of their skin.

The only reason you care about Chuck Norris and Jerry Richardson is the color of their skin. If they were arabic muslims, you wouldnt have Chuck in your avy and you wouldnt pull for Jerry's team.

[CRA]

Vick hate has nothing to do with skin color or style of play...

1. He was the Falcon QB. Explains Panther hate

2. NFL attempted to make him the face of the league at one point....he was never good enough for the hype

[AppStatePanther]

Can he get banned already. I'm so damn tired of getting on here to get told im scared of black qbs, or rich black people. Then he whines when MRTD uses racial undertones.

[AppStatePanther]

The only reason you care about Chuck Norris and Jerry Richardson is the color of their skin. If they were arabic muslims, you wouldnt have Chuck in your avy and you wouldnt pull for Jerry's team.

Wow, the fact that you truly believe this is proof enough to me that you are a racist.

The only reason you hate Jerry Richardson is the color of his skin.

[PhillyB]

KT's mistake is simply painting with a broad brush.

many of his points regarding hidden as well as blatant biases against black quarterbacks are valid, particularly in the context of southern college/pro teams. unfortunately the ignorant and uneducated have made these sorts of qualifications necessary; thankfully they are being gradually forced to the wacko fringe of society, where they will disappear quietly.

men like cam newton will be an effective agent in this process.

[nctarheel0619]

I was NCAA had a choice to unlock Cam in next years game. Instead they would rather have The Golden Calf of Bristol and Matt Lineart.

[King Taharqa]

Vick hate has nothing to do with skin color or style of play...

1. He was the Falcon QB. Explains Panther hate

2. NFL attempted to make him the face of the league at one point....he was never good enough for the hype

We needed an entire subforum for white people to vent about Vick and call him a "thug" to feel good inside. Nothing but threads taking joy in Vick's fall and legal troubles. They needed that. There's no white athlete or QB we can say that about in huddle history now is there?

If people thought about their actions and the repercussions beforehand we wouldnt have so many people denying their bigotry and ignorance.

Now that we see people doing it to Cam, we want to act like we don't understand it.

[CRA]

We needed an entire subforum for white people to vent about Vick and call him a "thug" to feel good inside. Nothing but threads taking joy in Vick's fall and legal troubles. They needed that. There's no white athlete or QB we can say that about in huddle history now is there?

If people thought about their actions and the repercussions beforehand we wouldnt have so many people denying their bigotry and ignorance.

Now that we see people doing it to Cam, we want to act like we don't understand it.

The loud minority doesn't represent the majority...despite how the opposite is often believed. I am of course talking about pre dog fight Vick.

He was hyped as something he never was.... and the NFL attempted to make him the posterboy for the league. Doesn't work doing that. Vick also wasn't a role model player pre dog fighting. Hindsight pretty much confirms that Vick got what he deserved.

McNabb is the only black QB of recent time IMO that has never been treated properly by media/fans.

Race has a role in things. Vick IMO is a poor example to have that discussion

[4Corners]

If people thought about their actions and the repercussions beforehand we wouldnt have so many people denying their bigotry and ignorance.

Pot meet kettle.

Oh wait theyre both black.

[mmmbeans]

male docking.

[DirtyMagic97]

I was NCAA had a choice to unlock Cam in next years game. Instead they would rather have The Golden Calf of Bristol and Matt Lineart.

Yea, one of the most popular and accomplished players in college football history got the nod over the one-year Cam Newton for a video game. Oh, the injustice!