Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Why does Rivera say we do not have the personal to run his scheme?

jarhead

By jarhead,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

jarhead Newbie

jarhead

Posted
Posted

First, Does anyone know "his scheme"?

I do not know the answers here but I can not imagine the modified version of a college shotgun offense as being his scheme.So does that mean he does not believe Cam can run his scheme or do we not have the personal to run a college offense? I get the impression from Cam that all is not well with his relationship with the play caller being Chud..

Is the read option his scheme? If so, we are in for a bumpy ride.What is his scheme on defense? My assumption is some form of Jim Johnson scheme.What personal do we need to run the Jim Johnson scheme? Someone please say FS.

I guess my last question is do we have the cap space to change schemes given we do not have the talent?

My opinion is this is one big ploy to make excuses for poor coaching and poor execution.I felt Hurney needed to go but not before taking Rivera and company with him.Please someone prove me wrong.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
raleigh-panther Grand Master

raleigh-panther

Posted
Posted

...and therein is the paradox of Rivera.

It's great to say 'we are going to be a vertical attacking team' if we have the personal to run it.

We do not.

It would be better to use schemes to fit the personal available and morph into the team he wants to be through the draft and free agency.

Either he does not get it, Chud doesn't get it, or Rivera is not smart enough to say, this is what we are right now and this is what we are going to be until we get the players to support the scheme we want to become.

It's very frustrating.

...and then to have a GM who pays like we are running the old Fox offense and HC who wants to be Don Coryell, part 2.

I don't know where the team is going but to go forward, you have to understand where you are on the map first and I don't think the current staff has a clue.

Players need a direction. Someone like Newton has to believe in the direction he's leading to...hard to watch right now.

One thing to me is certain, if they come out in Chicago and that read option as their primary design run against that Bear defense, Rivera should be fired on the spot for being the dumbest HC in the history of the NFL.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
jarhead Newbie

jarhead

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Reading between the lines the removal of Hurney says he has not either drafted or obtained the talent in FA for Ron Rivera to be successful.This is more than likely a true statement but Rivera can not get off that easily..As RaleighPanther so eloquently stated we must first run an offense that fits our personal and then modify it as we draft and get players through FA.I think the frustration lies with week after week putting a square peg in a round hole and this is where Chud and Rivera have failed both the fans and the team.If they try the same old crap against the bears they are going to get the same old results.With the personal I see on hand we need to run a power running game to counter a suspect OL and shorten the routes for the passing game which is exactly opposite of the Chud schemes,Ron Rivera has lost the confidence of the players and fans and this falls squarely on his shoulders.

In summary JR is giving you the rope .......do not hang yourself. The bears game will be very telling of Rivera's salt going forward.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Highlandfire Newbie

Highlandfire

Posted
Posted

In truth the opposing defenses do not have the personell for us to run our offensive scheme. We need to check and see if they would be willing to put a bunch of college kids in against us.

Well it starts with the QB. Chud didnt run this with a quality QB that could read defenses in SD. ONLY with THIS QB has he had to run an option offense.

Change QB's the offense will get better.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Zod Grand Master

Zod

Posted
Posted

Well it starts with the QB. Chud didnt run this with a quality QB that could read defenses in SD. ONLY with THIS QB has he had to run an option offense.

Change QB's the offense will get better.

I don't mean this as an insult, just an honest inquiry. Are you fugging insane?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
La Pantera Experienced

La Pantera

Posted
Posted

Well it starts with the QB. Chud didnt run this with a quality QB that could read defenses in SD. ONLY with THIS QB has he had to run an option offense.

Change QB's the offense will get better.

Cam ran a pro style offense last year...

Your hate is unjust. Cam must have fugged your mother or something.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Tank Newbie

Tank

Posted
Posted

Where did he say this? Was it in referecne to Offense or Defense? Damn, so much happening it is hard to keep up with it all.

The thread is going Offense so I guess thats what he said. What a weird thing for a HC to say (guessing he said it since it is being discussed). Take who you have and go put a plan together to win games. Its not that hard is it...???

Link to comment
Share on other sites
raleigh-panther Grand Master

raleigh-panther

Posted
Posted

What in the Panthers would lead anyone to believe they can run a 'vertical' offense right now?

A running game that makes the passing game work?

A non-porous offensive line? Can this line truly hold blocks long enough for those longer routes?

A veritical threat to compliment an aging Steve Smith?

A QB with more experience than 20 games?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
davos Grand Master

davos

Posted
Posted

Bottom line is that instead of running an offense that fits the personel, we're running an offense forced upon the personel that overly caters to our young QB. Its ruining Cam and if Chud does not start making more pro-style smash mouth gameplans, I'm afraid Cam could be damaged immensely by the year's end.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Butterflyj30
      Another Win

      By Butterflyj30 · Posted

      Dennis Rodman’s son lands Summer League shot with the Hornets   The Charlotte Hornets are coming off a promising 2025 NBA Draft class and will enter Summer League with no shortage of new faces looking to make an impression. But the most interesting addition didn’t come from the draft board. Instead, it’s DJ Rodman — the 24-year-old son of Hall of Famer and five-time NBA champion Dennis Rodman — who’s bringing some extra attention to the Hornets’ Summer League roster. Rodman played four years at Washington State before making the move to USC for his final season.  He wasn’t exactly lighting it up with the Trojans, putting up about 6 points, four boards, and an assist each game. But he did shoot well — hitting around 41% from the field and draining 36% of his three-pointers.  Standing 6-foot-6, he’s got the size to play on the wing and offers some versatility, which could be just what the Hornets are looking for as they try to fill out their roster. The Hornets’ Summer League squad already has plenty of fresh faces with this year’s draft picks and young guys fighting for a role. But Rodman’s last name alone is enough to turn heads, and now he’ll get his shot to prove he belongs once the games tip off in Vegas. Charlotte’s Summer League team is already drawing interest with recent draft picks and young players hoping to crack the rotation. But Rodman’s last name — and his potential to bring energy and toughness — adds another layer of intrigue. What Rodman lacks in college stats, he makes up for with hustle and competitiveness — traits his dad was known for throughout his Hall of Fame career. If he can bring that same energy and show growth in Summer League, he could carve out a role and surprise some people. Though the odds are against him making the Hornets’ final roster, there’s no denying the spotlight that comes with the Rodman name. The Hornets kick off Summer League next week in Las Vegas.   Dennis Rodman’s son lands Summer League shot with the Hornets
    • Davidson Deac II
      Tetairoa McMillion '23 vs '24

      By Davidson Deac II · Posted

      At this point, I only care what he does in 2025.  
    • MHS831
      Off Season Thread

      By MHS831 · Posted

      Question to the posters on this thread because you are knowledgeable--I love watching and pull for the Canes, but I never played so I don't have the understanding I had when I played football then watched it.  Having said that, Do you think we are weak at Center?  I see the team to be pretty strong on the wings, promising defense, and weak at Goalie.  It would be ideal if the Canes had 1 more position to upgrade, not 2.  I don't think you can count on Anderson to play a full season and he is 35.  However, are we solid at Center in your view?
×
×
  • Create New...