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Cam Newton criticized while Matthew Stafford ignored

Proudiddy

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I've been saying, he has shown signs of progression and improvement... It's the lack of consistency - not so much him, but of our offense, to stay on the field for extended drives... That's what is making us look and play a lot worse than what we are. All goes back to coaching.

Cam hasn't been perfect and he's had a few mistakes, but I'm tired of seeing people trash the guy who has been the sole reason we've even been competitive in the games we've played (minus the Giants).

I believe that he has shown improvement too. When we run a pro-style offense like last year, I think the consistency will come back. What kills me dude, is how people say he needs to learn to lose. I just don't get it.

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It's true that Stafford is facing a more unprecedented slump statistically( 5000+ yards, 41 TDs in 2011) but I think the reason he isn't being destroyed as badly as Newton is demeanor. Regardless of how you feel about Newtons and Staffords play and 2012 records, one is looking really, really bad about how they are handling it. People know how bad Stafford has been playing but Stafford doesn't give the media the template for hate Cam has. If Cam and Stafford want to be compared simply on play than Cam can't keep acting the way he does after a loss.

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cam is just more interesting and has a higher ceiling...and he talks more. he's a higher profile guy. stafford is vanilla. just a boring person. he's just being ignored and forgoten because no one really cares about him except lions fans.

Yea I find this to be true... Cam is actually interesting by media standards. I remember back in our Jake Days how we can have really good wins or even bad losses and it might get 2 secinds of attention in the media... we were boring so they did not care.

Cam is probably more like Tony Romo to the media. Romo is interesting and even if he has a good season or a good 3 game stretch if he has a down/bad game it's all over every media outlet.

Like Ponder and the vikings being 5-2 with Ponder yet I don't think I've heard one word about him or them in the media... why? Boring. So I don't think it's black and white... It's more of who/ what teams are boring/interesting toi the media.

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There may be something to Stafford not being as big of a topic because he's so vanilla, but that argument can be negated when you look at the amount of idiots trying to cloak questions about Cam's play on-field (not so)cleverly within their criticism of his off-field behavior/demeanor. A lot of these pundits are using questions about Cam in pressers and his maturity to overlap and blur the lines between persona and performance.

Yes, sometimes I get concerned about how hard he takes losses, but it doesn't justify the criticism he gets in general. And I don't think the way he deals with losses is unjustified - but again, he gets lambasted for his reactions without media taking into account how bad the organization has been as a whole for the last 4 years. While Stafford may lack personality or at least enough of one that he's a constant talking point, he still is having a horrible year in his 4th season and no one is destroying him on either front.

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Yea I find this to be true... Cam is actually interesting by media standards. I remember back in our Jake Days how we can have really good wins or even bad losses and it might get 2 secinds of attention in the media... we were boring so they did not care.

Cam is probably more like Tony Romo to the media. Romo is interesting and even if he has a good season or a good 3 game stretch if he has a down/bad game it's all over every media outlet.

Like Ponder and the vikings being 5-2 with Ponder yet I don't think I've heard one word about him or them in the media... why? Boring. So I don't think it's black and white... It's more of who/ what teams are boring/interesting toi the media.

Romo is actually a really bland person though. I mean, the dude wears Starter hats in pressers and this is 2012, lol.

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I've been saying, he has shown signs of progression and improvement... It's the lack of consistency - not so much him, but of our offense, to stay on the field for extended drives... That's what is making us look and play a lot worse than what we are. All goes back to coaching.

Cam hasn't been perfect and he's had a few mistakes, but I'm tired of seeing people trash the guy who has been the sole reason we've even been competitive in the games we've played (minus the Giants).

Can't give one guy all the credit then be upset when he gets all the blame.

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Yes, sometimes I get concerned about how hard he takes losses, but it doesn't justify the criticism he gets in general. And I don't think the way he deals with losses is unjustified - but again, he gets lambasted for his reactions without media taking into account how bad the organization has been as a whole for the last 4 years. While Stafford may lack personality or at least enough of one that he's a constant talking point, he still is having a horrible year in his 4th season and no one is destroying him on either front.

Yea in general I feel the media focuses to much on the demeanor and off the field stuff with players in general. I believe off the field issues has very little to do with production on the field, that's why I could give 2 shits how Cam acts after the game. Now what is true sometimes is how a player is off the field, could also be how a player is on the field and in a negative way, Example: Dez Bryant... you can tell off the field he is a head case and on the field he does not put the proper dedication and work into his craft. I don't think Cam has any issues that seem in on the field so for me the off field stuff is irrelevant.

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