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Worst position groups in the NFL

weymouthst

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Article from NFL.com:

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000169313/article/worst-position-groups-in-the-nfl-offense?campaign=Facebook_atl_rosenthal

 

 

And...we aren't on the list! Surprising, I know. This is a good sign, that someone recognizes that our team has no glaring holes in our position groups.

 

Take it with a grain of salt, though. I don't agree with some of the honorable mentions.

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Carolina ranked 13th against the pass last year.

 

 

Tampa Bay and New Orleans ranked the very worst.

 

 

Their units should be on the defense list, not ours.

it is position groups.

 

Our pass D allowed opponents the BEST completion % in the NFL.  Despite having the best pressure in the NFL per snap...only 6 teams had fewer INTs (1/3 of those few picks where by LBs).  Secondary stunk last year.....and it had the pass rush everyone claims will save it this year.

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I don't think our corners would be considered one of the worst; maybe our safeties.

 

our CBs are worse than our Ss.   Only strong part about or CBs is when in a nickel look....the nickel doesn't suck.  At least Godfrey is hovering near average

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Carolina ranked 13th against the pass last year.

 

 

Tampa Bay and New Orleans ranked the very worst.

 

 

Their units should be on the defense list, not ours.

They both threw money and/or draft picks into their secondary. Neither of which we decided to do.

I still think we are better than last year. But not by a very big margin. We do have a front four, or six, that can be disruptive. So we have that going for us.

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it is position groups.

 

Our pass D allowed opponents the BEST completion % in the NFL.  Despite having the best pressure in the NFL per snap...only 6 teams had fewer INTs (1/3 of those few picks where by LBs).  Secondary stunk last year.....and it had the pass rush everyone claims will save it this year.

You keep bringing this up as your metric to our inadequacy's last year. And there are two glaring flaws in your case.

One. We played a, keep them in front of you D. That slews the comp%. So it really is misleading when you try to use it.

Two. Our pass rush was great. Early in games. Late in games? Not so much. The fatigue factor of the front four also has a bearing on comp%. As they wear down later in games the comp% go up. Which also skews your logic.

If you could not see our pass rush slowing down late in games. And just want to go with your comp%. Fire away. Just know that your stats are skewed. Which ironically, is why you dismiss stats that you don't like.

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You keep bringing this up as your metric to our inadequacy's last year. And there are two glaring flaws in your case.

One. We played a, keep them in front of you D. That slews the comp%. So it really is misleading when you try to use it.

Two. Our pass rush was great. Early in games. Late in games? Not so much. The fatigue factor of the front four also has a bearing on comp%. As they wear down later in games the comp% go up. Which also skews your logic.

If you could not see our pass rush slowing down late in games. And just want to go with your comp%. Fire away. Just know that your stats are skewed. Which ironically, is why you dismiss stats that you don't like.

One.  That isn't what Rivera is about.....that is what having no talent is about.

 

Two.  You have the stat backing that up?  You have to provide the stat....

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Well, you can assume that our D-line won't be one of the worst (how could it with CJ and Hardy, and the additions in the draft), or the LB corps, being one of the best with Keek and healthy Beason/Davis (with added depth in FA and draft), which leaves the secondary as the only question mark.

 

I think it is safe to say that Captain and Godfrey are the strengths here. And we brought in guys in FA, one of which has 10 int's in three years (DJ Moore, Bears). Drayton Florence is probably not someone to rely on, but he is experienced with 10 years in. Josh Norman is a guy, and Lester is a long shot. Looking at CB's and Safetys individually, they may be some of the worst in the league when it comes to depth, but I feel like as a secondary unit they are not the worst at all.

 

 

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it is position groups.

 

Our pass D allowed opponents the BEST completion % in the NFL.  Despite having the best pressure in the NFL per snap...only 6 teams had fewer INTs (1/3 of those few picks where by LBs).  Secondary stunk last year.....and it had the pass rush everyone claims will save it this year.

 

Never fear.....Captain Pessimism is on the scene.

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