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I'm worried about Rivera


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lol what influence did Cam have on this game other than a positive one? if we had allowed him to throw just one time on that final drive we may not be talking about a loss right now.

 

I am probably crazy for thinking this but for the first time I don't think the sky was falling if Cam were allowed to leave.  He is a freakishly talented athlete but he may be falling in a long line of talented athletes who can't win at the professional level.   I've watched young QB's for the past year lead their teams to win after win...many in comebacks.....but I know for the first 10 games of the season......when wins matter against teams that are competing...Cam consistently doesn't get it done.  There are excuses after all of these games ....like Williams fumble today....but winning is all that matters.  

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I've always wondered why. Didn't he play wide receiver? I can't understand his opposition to an offensive coach.

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I think it stems from his unreasonable fascination to be the "steelers south" and that image of toughness.

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I am probably crazy for thinking this but for the first time I don't think the sky was falling if Cam were allowed to leave. He is a freakishly talented athlete but he may be falling in a long line of talented athletes who can't win at the professional level. I've watched young QB's for the past year lead their teams to win after win...many in comebacks.....but I know for the first 10 games of the season......when wins matter against teams that are competing...Cam consistently doesn't get it done. There are excuses after all of these games ....like Williams fumble today....but winning is all that matters.

Should've stopped after the first seven words of your first sentence.

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Just sat in the press conference. He just had a business as usual demeanor. It seemed he brushed the loss aside saying we lost to a good team, no biggie.

It should be up on Panthers.com soon. I hope I am just reading too much into it.

Infuriating.  Guess he doesn't expect to win in the playoffs then.  Of course I can't see the team from today being anywhere close to playoffs if our offensive personnel are going to execute so poorly.

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I am probably crazy for thinking this but for the first time I don't think the sky was falling if Cam were allowed to leave.  He is a freakishly talented athlete but he may be falling in a long line of talented athletes who can't win at the professional level.   I've watched young QB's for the past year lead their teams to win after win...many in comebacks.....but I know for the first 10 games of the season......when wins matter against teams that are competing...Cam consistently doesn't get it done.  There are excuses after all of these games ....like Williams fumble today....but winning is all that matters.  

 

Soooo Cam needs to be literally perfect then?  That's the only way he is going to make up for the poo surrounding him.  Wins and losses are achieved as a team no individual can completely carry a game or team on their back.

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I saw Delhomme (who had much much less talent) carry a team because he made others believe that there was no way they were going to lose.  Guys played above themselves in clutch situations.  I have never seen that same attitude from a Cam led team in games that mean something in the first half of season.  I hope he proves me wrong.  I don't think he will with Shula calling the shots.

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I am probably crazy for thinking this but for the first time I don't think the sky was falling if Cam were allowed to leave.  He is a freakishly talented athlete but he may be falling in a long line of talented athletes who can't win at the professional level.   I've watched young QB's for the past year lead their teams to win after win...many in comebacks.....but I know for the first 10 games of the season......when wins matter against teams that are competing...Cam consistently doesn't get it done.  There are excuses after all of these games ....like Williams fumble today....but winning is all that matters.  

 

I think I'm equally as crazy, because I sorta agree with you.

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No doubt that played a role, but I'm just saying he threw the coaches under the bus early, but after we started winning games that don't matter other than giving casual fans false hope, everyone got all sunshine and rainbows and forgot about it.

This team knows Ron is a joke of a HC. They even take shots at him now without even knowing it (like how Chud basically ran poo here).

I'm not exaggerating because its our team, but I have never seen a HC as consistently confused and in over his head as Rivera always is.

 

 

I hear ya but JR just doesn't give a dam. Be it a lame duck Fox and to hell with the fans I'm going to gut the team so I can laugh and puff on my fat cigar during a strike that never came or a bargain basement HC hired when it was unlikely to right the ship he's gonna do it his way.

Meantime the Panthers continue to sell out often filling the Stadium with opposing teams fans and we're left to take it hard without lube.

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