Is our problem coaching or talent?

[OBXPantha]

Its more than coaching.  Why would an owner hire a guy that has been passed over so many times for other HC jobs?  Why would he promote shula to OC, a guy who has never had success at being an OC, in fact he had the worst offense in the league as on OC.  I really think its about trying to save a nickel with JR. I don't know what they make but I would be willing to bet its is no way close to what most HC's and OC's make.

[poorboysrev]

Coaching. However, I'm done defending Cam. He's playing like horse poo.

Cam played well enough to win, he was getting killed all day long and still made plays. he just plays for a chicken poo coach. On the hurry up drive when Cam was actually turned loose he looked like a probowler. If you put Cam in San Fran, Green Bay, New Orleans or even Miami(philbin) he would be killing it because those teams don't hamstring their QB. We need a QB friendly head coach, period. Cam and this whole team is being held back by Rivera. Cam doesn't call the plays or make the key decisions late in the game. That's Rivera playing like he has the 85 Bears defense.

[ok2h8pep]

Rivera's style of coaching only works if you're Lombardi or Bellicheat.  He expects the players to get motivated by his gravitas.  The problem is that he doesn't have it.  

 

Week after week our big money players fail to make the plays that win games.  That is on Rivera.

 

Jordan Gross is a captain?  Please.  That is the problem with this franchise.  

[Beast_3000]

Someone start the petition and I'll sign off. Also can anyone put together a demonstration together for Sunday. Jerry needs to know he's destroying this fan base.

I am scheduled to work but I will take the day off and drive up from Columbia for a demonstration. We need to be heard.

[poorboysrev]

Its more than coaching.  Why would an owner hire a guy that has been passed over so many times for other HC jobs?  Why would he promote shula to OC, a guy who has never had success at being an OC, in fact he had the worst offense in the league as on OC.  I really think its about trying to save a nickel with JR. I don't know what they make but I would be willing to bet its is no way close to what most HC's and OC's make.

Gettleman will hire the next coach and I have ALOT more faith in him than  JR picking our coach

[Lords0fPain]

Can you name more than 10 solid players on our roster?

 

Cam, Olsen, Smitty, CJ, Kalil, Davis and Luke... Everyone else is serviceable.

 

"Hurney Magic" (and we are still paying for it, that said RR sucks as a HC. He needs to go back to what he does best, DC. We need a hardass coach to come in and change this losing culture, we have,

[section543]

Please stop it. I was one of those who wanted RR to stay but not anymore. He is NOT a coach.

 

Talent however is what I think we lack. I seriously do. I mean our strength was supposed to Monster's Inc. Where were they today? Not a single sack!!!!!!

 

this..

[ok2h8pep]

Can you name more than 10 solid players on our roster?

 

Cam, Olsen, Smitty, CJ, Kalil, Davis and Luke... Everyone else is serviceable.

You forgot J.J. Jansen.  He is Solid.  You can build a superbowl team around him.

J.J. JANSEN

LS #44

Height: 6-2 Weight: 245 Age: 27 College: Notre Dame Hometown: Phoenix, Ariz Experience: 6

Quick Stats (2013): TCKL 2 SCK 0.0 FF 0 INT --

[thennek]

I think it is coaching plus a mismanagement from the previous GM (Hurney). 

 

Rivera is a good D-Coordinator, but not a good HC.  In fact, the guy the Panthers let go 3-years ago was a much better HC than Rivera will ever be. 

 

This team had huge cap issues in the off-season, even after not being good in 2009, being horrible in 2010 & 2011, and not being very good in 2012.  The result is a bad o-line, a bad secondary, and not enough playmakers on offense.  Bad investments were made, and draft picks have not panned out.  It could take years to fix this mess, but step one is to fire Rivera now.   

 

 

 

 

[Clicheking]

I once heard if your getting blown out every game it's the players/talent , but if your consistently losing close games its the coaching. Ive always been a Ron supporter/apologist but again and again hes some the inability to win close games. Soooooo........

[letha]

most of the games today was close

[frash.exe]

Nobody can say that it's the players when we've had a lot of different players come in and out of Charlotte since 2011 and see the same poo by the team every single year

[bigdog10]

It's coaching.

The talent isn't great but it is good enough to beat buffalo. Just look at how lost our secondary was on that last play. They had no idea what to do.

[Jens]

I am dying, the rest of the week will be absolutely horrible and it hasnt even started yet.

 

It is all about EXECUTION and we just dont have it. Cleveland Browns look good compared to us. :-(