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Cam or Eli ?


carolinarolls

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The Giants would not even think about it..Good God, I hope we start to win before too long. Some of these suggestions around here are fantastic. You think anybody is going to trade a 2 Time Super Bowl winning QB for a QB that doesnt even have a .500 record??

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HEY GUYS

HEY

 

NEW HYPOTHETICAL

 

JOE MONTANA OR PEYTON MANNING

 

...yes, this is just as realistic as your situation.  Neither team would offer, let alone take, that deal

 

edit: ah fug it, let's play Madden, every other post in this forum has some abysmal trade so why not

 

No, you don't trade Eli Manning if you're the Giants.  He's won you 2 Superbowls.

 

You laugh Gettleman out of the building, because when you have a QB like that you don't let him go right now.  Maybe if he and the next coach spar a bunch then who knows, but now?  No way.

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Giants would take that trade in a heartbeat.  Eli is 32 years old.  He has what, maybe 3 good years left?

 

 

I disagree...he's not young by any means but he's proven, and his worth over the next three years on that team is probably greater than Cam's would be.  They also, at least right now, wouldn't want to do that because of coaching reasons.

 

and if the Giants would go into rebuilding mode, they'd probably rather have draft picks than a QB that has basically become a castaway in that situation.

 

on the other hand, I also wouldn't do that if I were the Panthers, because we are about to get a new coach and it's not a good idea to bring in a new QB right before a new coach IMO.

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