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the education of ron rivera...

rayzor

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rayzor Grand Master

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re: the impact of going for it on 4th and the broader implications of it.

 

you think he's finally getting it? sounds like it, but i need to see it more.

 

 

"We're going to do the best we can to make things happen, and I think these guys have bought into that," Rivera said. "Our third-down efficiency was outstanding, and of course we were two-for-two on fourth down.".


http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Behold-the-power-of-fourth-and-1/d8daca53-ab97-41e0-8a6e-4a1857373bc3

 

 

billvoth 12:48pm via Tweetbot for iOS

Rivera on new aggressive 4th downs: "One of the things I've learned," "it's been enlightening," "kicking field goals aren't good enough."

 

 

josephperson 12:46pm via Twitter for iPhone

Rivera on 4th-down calls: "It's about making a statement."

 

jjones9 1:15pm via Web

Rivera has evolved in his fourth-down philosophy. Lest we forget, 4 weeks ago the Panthers wouldn't "play desperate."

 

it sure sounds like the offense really appreciated the trust put in them in doing that. it's that kind of thing that builds confidence in them and hurts the other team's morale. i think it also shows a lot of trust in your defense as well, that if it didn't work out the D would be able to handle it.

 

"To have Coach Rivera give us the go-ahead on two fourth-and-ones in one drive is pretty gutsy," left tackle Jordan Grossicon-article-link.gif said after the Panthers turned the conversions into a touchdown that propelled them to a 35-10 victory over the Minnesota Vikings. "It meant a lot to us that he would do that. It meant a lot to him that we would hold up our end of the bargain. I think it set the tone for the game."

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"In a hostile environment, knowing that we need an edge in this game, we went for it," Newton said. "For Coach Rivera to trust us, it means a lot. It speaks volumes.

"He's a defensive coach by nature, so he has that conservative mentality, but I think he's kind of breaking his mold to a degree and giving the whole team confidence with that."

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"It sends the message that Coach Rivera has confidence in our group. That goes a long way," center

Ryan Kalilicon-article-link.gif said. "At the same time, we have to make sure that we answer for him when he puts that confidence in us."

 

 

 

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The 4th down conversions yesterday were probably the ballsiest ones he's called to date. I honestly thought we should have taken the field goal on one of them. I just hope he can kind a balance to that because we won't convert all of those 4th downs and our offense runs entirely on momentum.

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Talking about third down efficiency indicates to me Ron still sees the first two downs as primarily to put you in good position for third down which MAKES ME ANGRY IN MY PANTS

For good or ill, that's how Shula has designed this offense. It's not about chunk yards anymore. It's about staying on schedule.

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To be fair, Ron went for it on 4th last week too. Lafell dropped the pass.

 

the good thing to take away from that, tho, is that he did it again, despite the fact that it goes against his nature and is out of his comfort zone.

 

he's not averse to repeating things that don't work as long as it follows along with what every book he's been using to manage games by.

 

what he is averse to is repeating what is outside his comfort zone, regardless of if it works or not.

 

i'm just glad he didn't nix it because he tried it and it didn't work that one time.

 

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the good thing to take away from that, tho, is that he did it again, despite the fact that it goes against his nature and is out of his comfort zone.

 

he's not averse to repeating things that don't work as long as it follows along with what every book he's been using to manage games by.

 

what he is averse to is repeating what is outside his comfort zone, regardless of if it works or not.

 

i'm just glad he didn't nix it because he tried it and it didn't work that one time.

 

 

Agree... I guess I just wanted to point out that Ron may have figured this 4th down thing out earlier than we're giving him credit.  

 

The fact that his #2 WR dropped the ball after the play worked to perfection shouldn't have changed his approach. Actually, he should have been encouraged that his OC could dial up an effective play - if only his receivers could "receive".

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