Was Losing Godfrey The Biggest Step In Turning The Defense Around?

[General_Purr]

I still think Lester will be a great nfl safety. Watching him at alabama I had NO idea how he didnt end up in 2nd or 3rd round. He has great ball instincts I cant wait to see more of him.

[Fright]

yes

[Cpt slay a ho]

After one game and like three quarters i don't think that saying our d is better is correct or fair to Godfrey argument wise. The time he played before getting hurt he played good and solid, i don't understand the hate for godfrey he gets the d will treatment because of his contract. Gamble was out and people said our d was better, stat wise yes but we needed him a couple of late games last year and he would always lock up teams #1 Wr. I'm glad Mitchell has gotten the chance, it's a far stretch but in a perfect world hopefully something is done with his Contract and he can come back next year and compete to start next to Mitchell(hopefully who is resigned).

[Cpt slay a ho]

Added i think most of you are remembering the Godfrey like 3 years ago, the guy for the past couple of seasons has been laying the wood and making soild plays, Doesn't shock me these are the same guys who say munnerlyn sucks because he got beat on a comeback or slant route but in reality he's the only guy who's made qb pay for throwing his way, our guys in the secondary catch alot of flack for reasons unknown or too silly

[Matthias]

It's been on my mind quite a bit over the last few games...  I was a huge detractor of Godfrey's for awhile, but it appeared to me that he had improved quite a bit over the last two seasons or so.  But, I was still unhappy with the sense that he still had not had to EARN his spot under either Fox's or Rivera's regime.  Well, he goes down with injury and we have several different guys step in and contribute so much so that Godfrey has become an afterthought.

 

Do you think losing him was the biggest step in turning around our defense?  Or at the very least, turning around the problems we have historically had in the secondary?

 

I think it's in bad taste to put that much of the onus on Godfrey, but I think it's a relevant discussion to be had.  No doubt, there are multiple reasons that our defense is this good, but do you think they'd be THIS good if he was still back there?

 

 

I think our defense has been pretty good all season, so there wasn't much to turn around.  If anything, probably Melvin White's production helped give a slight lift to our defense.

[iamhubby1]

I love Godfrey and always wanted the best for him. Problem was, he just could never put it all together. He wasn't as bad a some will say, nor as good as other will have it. Too bad an injury had to end his Panther career.

IMO, Godfrey just never had that instinctive gene that good safeties need. I don't blame him, he is after all a CB. But he could be just about there a poo ton of times. Almost make the tackle in the backfield, damm near snag that INT, just about got there in time to break up that pass. He had a goodly amount of those just about plays.

We seem to now be able to make more of those borderline plays. And I believe that its because Mitchell and Mickell are just better safeties than Godfrey was.

Onward and upward I guess.

[Delhommey]

With Godfrey in we gave up 15 points in 6 quarters so where the idea that the defense has "improved" is coming from is beyond me.

I'll agree the defense hasn't really dropped off with him out though, but that's more a testament to our front 7.

"But Mitchell brings the pain DURR DURRRR"

[Delhommey]

So one one hand some posters are saying he made highlight plays but nothing else. Others are saying he never made impactful plays.

Meanwhile this whole thread is based on the idea that the defense was performing poorly with him in it and better without, which statistically doesn't hold true.

This doesn't feel at all like a witch hunt.

[CRA]

So one one hand some posters are saying he made highlight plays but nothing else. Others are saying he never made impactful plays.

Meanwhile this whole thread is based on the idea that the defense was performing poorly with him in it and better without, which statistically doesn't hold true.

This doesn't feel at all like a witch hunt.

Godfrey didn't play enough to even compare statistics.

Week 1 games are always odd and most "experts" but little meaning into those bc they are so unpredictable. That is all Godfrey has on his resume this year

[AceMan]

Losing Godfrey brought us Mike Mitchell as a starter so yes, our defense did get better with Godfrey going down

[carolina-chuck]

Godfrey is terrible in coverage! The biggest mistake was moving him back to FS. Still he's not that good of a SS too.

I'm glad I won't see TonyG and Graham abusing him on Sundays anymore. Well for this season. He should not be brought back especially with that contract.

[beastson]

He's not a S though

 

He's a CB

 

Inserted real S and yeah you see the difference. Btw, Lester > Mikell

[carolina-chuck]

He's not a S though

He's a CB

Inserted real S and yeah you see the difference. Btw, Lester > Mikell

Lester is better in coverage than Mikell. But I'd like Mikell in the box more.

And that was the problem with Gofrey. Well the main problem was HURNEY!

Drafting a CB converting him to Safety: Godfrey.

and drafting a safety to convert him to corner: Sherrod. Didn't work!

[beastson]

Lester is better in coverage than Mikell. But I'd like Mikell in the box more.

And that was the problem with Gofrey. Well the main problem was HURNEY!

Drafting a CB converting him to Safety: Godfrey.

and drafting a safety to convert him to corner: Sherrod. Didn't work!

 

Idk chuck, I kinda blame Fox for that one. He had part in who to draft, but he made the decision to put them there. Same way with AE

 

I look back at Hurney/Fox, I don't see how ANYBODY, ANYBODY supported them. It was time for kick rocks once we got eliminated by Arizona. They should have gone bye bye right after that game along with Jake