Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

ESPN Mock 3.0 We got Cyrus Kouandjio


Keep Steve

Recommended Posts

You mean comparing an OT with injury issues to another OT with injury issues is unwarranted? Our medical staff obviously cleared Otah too.

I'd prefer not taking a guy in the 1st round with injury issues, especially one from Alabama. Those Alabama guys are already beat to hell by the time they get to the NFL. Saban kills those kids.

No. His knee is fine. After he had his "botched" surgery he went on to not miss a single game for two years. Most comparisons on this site are ridiculous. Any wr out of USC he's Jarrett. Cyrus is nothing like otah. Gtfo

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Tons of teams supposedly flagged him for medical issues at the combine.  Only time will tell if his knee is "fine".  I'd rather not roll the dice on that at #28.  Yes, Dr. James Andrews said his knee is fine and he's the leading expert on the subject, but he's not perfect.  Too many question marks on that knee for my taste to take the kid in the 1st.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

His knee is fine. Do some research [/quote=CarolinaCoolAid] No u ...in all seriousness. I don't see anything saying he is not with a bad knee. If this is another one of those events that takes place to have a player drop to us, I am all for it but I am weary of offensive linemen with knee problems. That's their livelyhood man. They need their knees in this NFL. Especially if they are playing 10+ years.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Star's heart condition was via an infection. Cyrus' knees are from botched surgery. His knees have been checked out already and the news isn't good.

 

But the botched surgery report, as well as reports of failed physicals, came from rumors at the combine.  But his doctors have refuted the botched surgery claim as well as that his knee is bad...so I really don't know. 

 

So, I'm just asking that if our team doctors evaluate him and determine that his knees should not be a problem, would people still have a problem taking him at 28?     

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Walter football has us taking him in the THIRD round of this week's mock. Fwiw.

 

That's about right, assuming several others are already off the board.

 

A lot of hype surrounding this guy but even with good knees, he is not a good LT.  He couldn't handle speed rush in college, tried to make up for it with size and strength.  The pros will eat him up.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

No. His knee is fine. After he had his "botched" surgery he went on to not miss a single game for two years. Most comparisons on this site are ridiculous. Any wr out of USC he's Jarrett. Cyrus is nothing like otah. Gtfo

 

You're simply choosing to take one side of the story.  Dr. James Andrews is the leading expert on the matter, but there seems to be a ton of other well qualified people who are disagreeing with him on this one.  There's not such thing as facts on a matter like this.  It's all opinion and it sounds like there are a lot more opinion saying "nay" than there are saying "yay".

 

Also, you mad.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

But the botched surgery report, as well as reports of failed physicals, came from rumors at the combine.  But his doctors have refuted the botched surgery claim as well as that his knee is bad...so I really don't know. 

 

So, I'm just asking that if our team doctors evaluate him and determine that his knees should not be a problem, would people still have a problem taking him at 28?     

 

This is the key right there.  Neutral, unbiased doctors are flagging the kid while HIS DOCTORS say he's fine.  I have zero experience in the medical field, but in my professional experience, neutral, unbiased opinions tend to be the more accurate opinions.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You're simply choosing to take one side of the story. Dr. James Andrews is the leading expert on the matter, but there seems to be a ton of other well qualified people who are disagreeing with him on this one. There's not such thing as facts on a matter like this. It's all opinion and it sounds like there are a lot more opinion saying "nay" than there are saying "yay".

Also, you mad.

False. More are saying yay then nay. The majority say his knee is fine.

Also. You have no clue what you're talking about

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • In my view, the realistic expectation for this team to compete will start 2027.  At that time, I think we could be looking at the following (this is HIGHLY speculative):   QB:  You know, Bryce.  I am not a fan, but they don't ask me.  But there is reason for hope--and here it is.  Bryce will be entering his prime.  Since we are likely to pay him, there will be changes that I include throughout this exercise--I realistically speculate on what they are going to do with Bryce and then I realistically speculate on what means in terms of the cap and other positions. Bryce HAS IMPROVED.  The idea is that if you give him more weapons and protection, that will continue.  His career:   At this rate, if his growth continues, by 2027 we should expect nearly 30 TDs and about 12 Interceptions and a Rating of about 98.  His completion percentage should settle at 65-66% or so.  If that happens, you can win with it. The following stats demonstrate how the Panthers will be able to afford it (and re-sign Ickey) My guess is they will require about $60m per year. This is why rookies who can play are important.  It also helps us see the blueprint.  You may disagree, but this is the cruel realities of the salary cap. Robert Hunt:  Cut post June 1 and save $19m.  Who do you replace him with?  Ickey. Tershawn Wharton:  Cutting him saves nearly $15m.  We should all hope to see Aaron Hall (UDFA) make the roster and play well.  Regardless, this is a position we would likely have to address in the next draft. Trevin Moehrig:  Cutting Moehrig as the starting SS saves this team $16.5m.   Ransom will be on year 3 of a cheap rookie deal and should be more than ready to take the reins.  their styles are similar.  Furthermore, FS Wheatley (R, 4th round) will be starting. Taylor Moton:  So much depends on his knee, but I have an idea that he can play another 3 years.  extending him could save the team about $5m per year.  Cutting him outright would save the team about $21m. In the most drastic situation, we have to cut Moton and the other three players mentioned.   We would need (in all likelihood) a starting DT and RT.  It is possible that the DE would be addressed, but Wharton's production (so far) could be equaled by a rookie.  Look for a cut free agent and a 2027 draft pick here.  If you cut Moton, you save $21m, and that would be the only big hole to fill.  Having Ickey at RG gives you some depth at T, and Ickey could be the guy.  T could be pick in the 2027 draft (first round), fwiw.  It saves you $21m while costing you $5m, for example. We get younger, creating a core of Freeling, Hecht, and the RT first rounder in 2027) along with Ekownu (second contract in the $15m range, and Lewis, whose contract would be in the $16m range if not extended.)  The OL cuts (Hunt, Moton) would save $40m.  The OL would get younger and still solid with veterans at G.   By cutting Wharton (no brainer if his play stays the same) and Moehrig (good player--but we have Ransom on a rookie contract who would not be that much of a drop off--if any) in addition to Hunt and Moton, we would save over $70m in cap room. We would be able to give Bryce bag  and we would have enough to re-sign Ickey (if the knee is not too risky) to a Guard contract (probably at a discount, coming off that injury).  Furthermore, we could add a RT in the draft (or a RG if Ickey moves to RT) and that would be the only large hole to fill. Correct my logic if you see issues-- On defense, in addition to the aforementioned, Scott ($2m contract) is out, replaced by a 4th round rookie contract. CB Jackson's contract ($7.8m) expires and he is (possibly) replaced by a rookie contract.  At Edge, patrick Jones II's $10m contract expires and he is likely a reserve, and his role is absorbed by Phillips, Scourton, Princely, and possible an UDFA like Isaiah Smith or a 2027 draft pick.   These productive developmental players over the past 2 drafts will pay huge dividends.  On paper, I see the team getting much younger and possibly better while cutting nearly $100m and reallocating that money to get more production.          
    • If everything played out and that last thing happened, I probably just quit. 
×
×
  • Create New...