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Would A running focus team be a bad thing?

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panthers55 Grand Master

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I agree but you build balance first by having a strong line. If the offensive line is dominated on run and pass blocking Megaton and AP wouldn't do us any good.

I think the line this year will be better than last as long as we don't have a ton of injuries.  We did fairly well considering we had a turnstile at the guard position last year..

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I think the line this year will be better than last as long as we don't have a ton of injuries. We did fairly well considering we had a turnstile at the guard position last year..

I hope so because I would prefer going wide receiver/tight end in the first then BPA for wide receiver or tackle in the second and third round.

The offensive line in this draft is a little thin in my opinion though.

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I hope so because I would prefer going wide receiver/tight end in the first then BPA for wide receiver or tackle in the second and third round.

The offensive line in this draft is a little thin in my opinion though.

I think we will find a few LTs in free agency.  Once teams draft their LT in the first for example there will a desire to cut vets at that position and we should be able to pick them up for a decent price.  Most draft analyses say that you can find a starting tackle in the first 3 rounds this year.  There are not a tons of guys that is true but we only need 1 of them.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2014/OT

http://www.drafttek.com/2014-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-College-Left-Offensive-Tackles-2014-Draft.asp

 

 

I looked at guys like Mayock but he only lists the top 5.

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Newton only accounted for 550 yds of rushing out of 2,000yds

When your QB has over 25% of your yards on the ground, it's not the best thing. But, what he was saying is that there a times when a play breaks down and cam runs making it look, on the stat sheet, as though it was a well-designed play. In actuality, cam is running for his life.

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When your QB has over 25% of your yards on the ground, it's not the best thing. But, what he was saying is that there a times when a play breaks down and cam runs making it look, on the stat sheet, as though it was a well-designed play. In actuality, cam is running for his life.

At least he can elude defenders and run well.  Other guys are like statues. The issue is how many of his yards are scrambles and how many are designed plays for him to run.   From what I saw, there are fewer designed plays than in the past.  Of course sometimes he will actually audibelize to himself and run even when that play wasn't called.

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The way i see it is that most of the teams in the NFL are starting to...well.. already have started mainly worrying about the pass threat.   And are structuring their defense as such.  isnt it Tampa that said they are running 3-4 this year?    So lets assume we have D-will and stewart healthy, and they CAN pound the ball,  with two backs doesnt that put us in a position to exploit a flaw in a defense designed soley around the pass.  I mean yeah, on occasion you need to throw, but if we can just find someone to run a decent route and open up things for olsen, I think were golden.   The key is that stewart gets healthy..  playing a team in the 3-4  with two backs like we have is pretty much and automatic 3-4 yard gain every time IMO  I dont think G-Man will ignore OL and WR in the draft so we will def have bodies on the field that can catch.

 

With our offensive line, YES...

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Yep, you got it. Watch us rely on Cam's legs again since Shula can't fix our blocking scheme.

Need talent. We didn't have the OL or RB talent last year for a power run scheme.

Williams was the healthy RB and he isn't a power runner at 30 nor when he was younger.

OL was weak.

You can't just say well if a coach was good then they would be running well.

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