49ers Aldon Smith arrested at LAX

[Toundra]

A good reminder for the draft.

 

[Happy Panther]

Security is security. Otherwise suspected terrorists could just rent a private jet next time.

 

Airport security hands out way more felonies to US citizens than terrorists it catches.

[Happy Panther]

So basically your two "run ins" were separate occasions in which you did something really stupid?

TSA agents are there to keep you safe. 

Actually the TSA program is a really costly and pretty useless program

[tiger7_88]

Actually the TSA program is a really costly and pretty useless program

100% truth.

However, its not that hard to get through TSA security, with a little patience, and not being a total douche or moron.

But the TSA does have its moments of being stupid as well. Read last week of a case where they wouldn't let a mute, wheel-chair bound stroke victim through security because her license had expired and she couldn't say her name as they insisted she must.

[Happy Panther]

100% truth.

However, its not that hard to get through TSA security, with a little patience, and not being a total douche or moron.

 

Yeah you still follow the rules. Aldon is an idiot.

[MadHatter]

100% truth.

However, its not that hard to get through TSA security, with a little patience, and not being a total douche or moron.

But the TSA does have its moments of being stupid as well. Read last week of a case where they wouldn't let a mute, wheel-chair bound stroke victim through security because her license had expired and she couldn't say her name as they insisted she must.

I can fully understand how people would be all up in arms over the situation that you detailed above.  However, you have to also think about this from the security's perspective.  People who wish to do harm on airplanes are pretty ingenious on how they plan to achieve their objective.  It is NOT the guy who looks like a terrorist that you need to worry about....it is the one that does not.

 

You KNOW that you have to have a valid ID to go through airport security.  The person showing up with them knowing the license was expired shoudl have known better as well.

[AceBoogie]

Young with money is not always a good thing. I pray cam continues to be smart leaving them h0es alone and reframes from the reefer. Nobody's perfect but makes you appreciate the role models we have that much more.

Don't go dragging Mary Jane into this

[TheRumGone]

Don't go dragging Mary Jane into this

I've wondered if Cam smokes during the offseason. I'm sure quite a few players do. For some reason I don't think he does just because he is a health nut

[tiger7_88]

I can fully understand how people would be all up in arms over the situation that you detailed above. However, you have to also think about this from the security's perspective. People who wish to do harm on airplanes are pretty ingenious on how they plan to achieve their objective. It is NOT the guy who looks like a terrorist that you need to worry about....it is the one that does not.

You KNOW that you have to have a valid ID to go through airport security. The person showing up with them knowing the license was expired shoudl have known better as well.

Yeah, I'm sure having a stroke, losing your ability to speak, and becoming wheel-chair bound is no excuse for forgetting to renew your drivers license.

[Wyank]

Yeah, I'm sure having a stroke, losing your ability to speak, and becoming wheel-chair bound is no excuse for forgetting to renew your drivers license.

 

I can see Madhatter's point of view.  Terrorist would use any means possible to get through.  Whoever was helping that person travel should of made sure everything was in order for the person to travel.

[Happy Panther]

I can see Madhatter's point of view.  Terrorist would use any means possible to get through.  Whoever was helping that person travel should of made sure everything was in order for the person to travel.

The problem is that if you want to get a bomb on a plane you can probably do it despite the trillion dollar TSA. 

 

This is a good article

 

The boarding-pass problem is hardly the only problem with the checkpoints. Taking off your shoes is next to useless. “It’s like saying, Last time the terrorists wore red shirts, so now we’re going to ban red shirts,” Schneier says. If the T.S.A. focuses on shoes, terrorists will put their explosives elsewhere. “Focusing on specific threats like shoe bombs or snow-globe bombs simply induces the bad guys to do something else. You end up spending a lot on the screening and you haven’t reduced the total threat.”

 

As I waited at security with my fake boarding pass, a T.S.A. agent had darted out and swabbed my hands with a damp, chemically impregnated cloth: a test for explosives. Schneier said, “Apparently the idea is that al-Qaeda has never heard of latex gloves and wiping down with alcohol.” The uselessness of the swab, in his view, exemplifies why Americans should dismiss the T.S.A.’s frequent claim that it relies on “multiple levels” of security. For the extra levels of protection to be useful, each would have to test some factor that is independent of the others. But anyone with the intelligence and savvy to use a laser printer to forge a boarding pass can also pick up a stash of latex gloves to wear while making a bomb. From the standpoint of security, Schneier said, examining boarding passes and swabbing hands are tantamount to performing the same test twice because the person you miss with one test is the same person you'll miss with the other.

 

After a public outcry, T.S.A. officers began waving through medical supplies that happen to be liquid, including bottles of saline solution. “You fill one of them up with liquid explosive,” Schneier said, “then get a shrink-wrap gun and seal it. The T.S.A. doesn’t open shrink-wrapped packages.” I asked Schneier if he thought terrorists would in fact try this approach. Not really, he said. Quite likely, they wouldn’t go through the checkpoint at all. The security bottlenecks are regularly bypassed by large numbers of people—airport workers, concession-stand employees, airline personnel, and T.S.A. agents themselves (though in 2008 the T.S.A. launched an employee-screening pilot study at seven airports). “Almost all of those jobs are crappy, low-paid jobs,” Schneier says. “They have high turnover. If you’re a serious plotter, don’t you think you could get one of those jobs?”

 

 

 

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2011/12/tsa-insanity-201112

[MadHatter]

I can see Madhatter's point of view.  Terrorist would use any means possible to get through.  Whoever was helping that person travel should of made sure everything was in order for the person to travel.

 

That is part of what I meant.

 

People need to understand the level of skepticism that a TSA agent needs to have to do their job.  Do people really think that terrorists would not fake people with disabilities to get things on a plane if they believed it worked.  Every situation must be treated with the same skepticism. 

 

If you need a valid ID to go through security.....then EVERYONE needs a valid ID.  The moment that you start making exceptions to that rule, then you create additional gaps in the security process.

 

Is the process foolproof?  No.

 

Are some TSA complete dicks on a power trip?  Yes

 

But, the process are designed to provide the greatest amount of security that they can.

 

Again...it is not the person who looks like a terroriest that you really have to worry about. 

[MadHatter]

The problem is that if you want to get a bomb on a plane you can probably do it despite the trillion dollar TSA. 

 

This is a good article

 

 

 

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2011/12/tsa-insanity-201112

 

So what security measures would you propose to put in place?

 

Let me guess....none.  We should just assume that everyone going through security is a nice person with no intentions of doing harm.

[Alcatraz49ers]

I don't even pay attention to the occasional TSA agent who is indeed a dick on a power trip. I just do what they say and put up with the headache and time consuming crap it takes to fly in today's world. Because st the end of the day it's just for my own safety.

People who bitch about it are motions who are immature. It's also a good chance there a meat head who thinks you have to be a tough guy bad ass to be a man.