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Kurb, The Great One Rants: Goodell and the No Fun League

Aug 07 2013 08:12 AM Kurb Carolina Panthers
A few years back Goodell made a point to enforce on "planned TD celebrations" and honestly rightfully so. It was getting out of hand. Even our own Smitty was beginning to get carried away. At their height, the TD celebrations were becoming side show spectacles of the game itself and as such (and again rightfully so) a level of enforcement was placed on them. That was a smart move. A understandable move, but now......

Now we have this bullpoo coming up Here and Here. To which I say, Rodg, who the fug asked for this?

Was spinning the ball ruining the shape of the footballs causing a massive rise in the price of footballs thus cutting into the NFL and NFL teams so obviously tight profit margin ? Was it causing turf damage? Did NFL referee's get burns on their hands from the high rpm levels of the ball when they picked them up? Why Rodg?
There are many threads on this, I am an admin, I don't care.



Easy, Roger Goodell continues to look and act like a boring, entitled, stick in the mud of a commissioner.

A few years back he made a point to enforce on "planned TD celebrations" and honestly rightfully so. It was getting out of hand. Even our own Smitty was beginning to get carried away. At their height, the TD celebrations were becoming side show spectacles of the game itself and as such (and again rightfully so) a level of enforcement was placed on them. That was a smart move. A understandable move, but now......

Now we have this bullshit coming up Here and Here. To which I say, Rodg, who the fug asked for this?

Was spinning the ball ruining the shape of the footballs causing a massive rise in the price of footballs thus cutting into the NFL and NFL teams so obviously tight profit margin ? Was it causing turf damage? Did NFL referee's get burns on their hands from the high rpm levels of the ball when they picked them up? Why Rodg?

Only one reason would have any merit, well merit when talking to people who drink their warm milk, complain about obama and use their VCR to record Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy while thy catch the early bird dinner at Denny's, is that celebration is causing an unneeded delay in the game. So basically the 1-3 mins could have been lost. Tell you what, notify the players when one of your Ten fuging Thousand TV timeout's are coming and they can do their celebrations then, how's that?



jtnc posted this recently in a thread about enforcement on the ball spilling celebration:

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On that list, only 2 things stand out to me as a legit unsportsmanlike conduct. Talking poo to someone after a big play and standing over them after a sack/hit/tackle/whatever. These are legit rules. It's something that you don't want a young person to really pick up on and being a creature of common sense I can agree with that.

However, EVERY SINGLE fuging THING LEFT ON THE LIST does one thing more than anything else, it plays into the fan experience a fan experience that is being systematically dismantled for more $$$$ and less F U N.

Basically, Goodell is saying success on the field is nothing to be celebrated by the person that was the method for that success. That enjoyment of the game is more about sitting and watching these people work with no emotion from their end.

I guess a Sack from JJ Watt, arguably the best D-Lineman in the league (last year was possibly one of the best all time) shouldn't be a "thing" to get excited about.

If Adrian Peterson throws a ball into the crowd are you going to flag him for that? Maybe the fan should be ejected for vigorous celebration?

Where does it stop?

Will we start to enforce rules on a team basis?
The lambeau leap is ok for Green Bay, but anyone on any other team must commit Seppuku if they try to somewhere else.

Does Cam Newton need to getting receipts from the TD balls he gives away so Big JR can use that as charitable contributions on his tax return?

Why is ok for Jared Allen to play craps or make cakes or whatever the fug it is he does when he bludgeons a LT with his amazing mullet and sacks a QB?


I hate to throw a racial stereotype out there, but man does this fit the "Stuffy, Rich, Entitled White Guy" stereotype to a T. "Well good friends we can't have those 99%'ers getting all excited when our worker bee's toss one of their fellows to the ground now can we! How Ever will they keep enough control to buy more of the swill beer we sell them and order NFL Ticket for their quaint little homes..huffaaa huffaaa huffaaa" *rings bell for more triple malt scotch and a new smoking jacked*

No Fun League has been thrown around for a long time, Rodger Goodell seems hell bent on making that a reality.

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Agreed, might as well add in a mandatory hand shake before and after the game at mid field and a little "handy j" for Roger after each game

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We haven't heard anything about all of those being enforced

The whole thing is just completely, bafflingly, stupid.

 

I like watching a DE lose his mind after a critical sack.  I liked watching Favre run around like a school-girl with a new doll after, well, after he did anything really. Celebrations are a part of what the NFL is.  They're part of the character of the game and they have no measurable impact on the game other than getting people fired up which leads to...guess what...more fun for everyone.

 

I don't know what the impetus for this crusade is and if someone told me I wouldn't be able to wrap my mind around it.

 

What I do know is you can look at stadiums where fans are allowed to act like fools vs ones where you can be warned for standing up too much to see the impact of sanitation on the fan experience.  If Goodell's goal is to erode the fan experience across his entire audience he just needs to continue down this path.  Soon laughing, joking, and high fives will be in the cross hairs because they're not refined.  Maybe afterwards we can remove running as well...

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Goodell has done one good thing today: inspired this rant.
First time I've seen the actual list. Has this already been passed? If so, Goodell is such a dick. Each item I read, I replayed a vision from my memory bank of times I saw players do them and there was nothing unsportsmanlike about it... Moose's between the legs crossover then signaling first down with the ball (sometimes without as well), Smitty's ball spin, and I'm pretty sure CJ, Kraken, or Beason have done the "hulk" at some point.

Really disappointing, and I guess the former players are right, it will eventually just turn into the equivalent of watching a 12 year old flag football tournament. "Don't be unsportsmanlike little Johnny, your mom is watching!"

NFL is a business. They believe these changes will make them more marketable/profitable.

 

Anybody upset over these new rules is not going to stop watching. The idea imo is that there are some( I know/ have met a few) can't stand seeing players celebrating for "doing their job". Its the older generation who does not like it and the NFL does not want to alienate them.

 

Bottom line is nobody is going to stop watching because of this but some might keep watching because of it.

I had a dream last night that Zod retired and Kurb took over the Huddle.
Well, since my thread got locked the other day touching on it I will again ask you guys....

Don't you think RR should just tell 89 he needs to eliminate the ball the spin completely. Smitty went on record earlier this week saying he would still do it....that seems like an automatic penalty waiting to happen as soon as 89 encounters a no fun ref (too much room for interpretation and refs calling what is "in the vicinity of" different.

Lots of games come down to one huge penalty taking away a much needed play

I dont like the idea of policing excitement out of the game. Mr goodell meet slippery slope 

The league just clarified on Mike and Mike: none of these these things directed towards a player, but players can still celebrate.

 

The league just clarified on Mike and Mike: none of these these things directed towards a player, but players can still celebrate.

 

exactly

 

no biggie

The culture is reverting back to where it was in the early 90s when celebrations were frowned upon and penalized as well.  I believe it's cyclical. 

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Model citizen for the no fun league?
 

This totally made me LOL at the time.

i believe Goodell is a bitch.

lot's of misplaced anger that the little rayzor laughs at

 

 

there's one little problem with your rant, it's not goodell that's the problem.

 

he doesn't vote on rule changes. he doesn't even really suggest them.

 

you want someone to blame? that's fine. blame the ones that are really responsible. the nfl competition committee that suggest the rule changes and then the owners for voting them into existence.

 

we all know who the owners are, but who is this group of evil guys suggesting rule changes?

As of April 15, 2013,[1] the members were:

Chairman: Rich McKay (Atlanta Falcons)
- Jeff Fisher (St. Louis Rams)
- Stephen Jones (Dallas Cowboys)
- Marvin Lewis (Cincinnati Bengals)
- John Mara (New York Giants)
- Mark Murphy (Green Bay Packers)
- Ozzie Newsome (Baltimore Ravens)
- Rick Smith (Houston Texans)
- Mike Tomlin (Pittsburgh Steelers)

http://en.wikipedia....ition_committee

 

these are the guys responsible for the No Fun League in it's current form. goodell has no more power to make rule changes than anyone. he can't fire an owner or a coach. he can't bully the rule committee into making rule changes. he's just the guy that announces rule changes. he's a figurehead where rule changes go. when changes are made, it's his job to support them and be an advocate of them when they are made. it's his job to sell them to the public, not make them.

 

all that said, not a fan of the rule changes. not even really a fan of goodell, though i do think he's responsible for growing the market and bringing in more revenue, but that's another discussion.

 

here's something to think about tho, the chairman of the committee is with the falcons and the spin the ball move is a trademark of the most lethal member of the panthers for years.

 

coincidence?

there's one little problem with your rant, it's not goodell that's the problem.

 

he doesn't vote on rule changes. he doesn't even really suggest them.

 

you want someone to blame? that's fine. blame the ones that are really responsible. the nfl competition committee that suggest the rule changes and then the owners for voting them into existence.

 

we all know who the owners are, but who is this group of evil guys suggesting rule changes?

 

these are the guys responsible for the No Fun League in it's current form. goodell has no more power to make rule changes than anyone. he can't fire an owner or a coach. he can't bully the rule committee into making rule changes. he's just the guy that announces rule changes. he's a figurehead where rule changes go. when changes are made, it's his job to support them and be an advocate of them when they are made. it's his job to sell them to the public, not make them.

 

all that said, not a fan of the rule changes. not even really a fan of goodell, though i do think he's responsible for growing the market and bringing in more revenue, but that's another discussion.

 

here's something to think about tho, the chairman of the committee is with the falcons and the spin the ball move is a trademark of the most lethal member of the panthers for years.

 

coincidence?

Good points.

 

However, when you are the boss, it's your fault.

I also shoot messengers.

 

PS: Don't laugh at me :(

I dont like the idea of policing excitement out of the game. Mr goodell meet slippery slope 

 

Lol...if the "excitement" of the game comes from guys doing dances and spinning the ball then I'm watching for all the wrong reasons.

 

Seriously, this is ridiculous.

 

People will still watch without the dancing.  People watch college football and enjoy the crap out of it and there's nothing even close to the kinds of celebrations going on in the NFL.

 

I'm not saying I "like" these rules.  But stomping around and acting like this is going to destroy the "game of football" is ludicrous. 

 

Don't know about Kurb and the rest of you, but I'm going to still watch whether they do a dance or just run back to the huddle and high five their teammates. 

 

And Goodell knows it.

I thought it was already well established that Goodell was a terrible Commissioner and the game has regressed tremendously ever since he took over for Tagliabue.

 

I will also throw this in here, simply because I've no other place to put it-but it isn't just the NFL. THE NFLPA is just as responsible. The pissing contest between the two is getting out of control and it's hurting the game. Most notably, however, is giving the PA the power to dictate how much players should have to work out or practice. Could you imagine if you had the power to tell your high school coach that you don't feel as if you should be running wind sprints anymore at the end of practice? It's the exact same principle and we're seeing the players abuse that power-and for all their talk of safety, the lack of conditioning and growth in injuries is making the players suffer the consequences of what is essentially just pure laziness.

NFL is a business. They believe these changes will make them more marketable/profitable.

 

Anybody upset over these new rules is not going to stop watching. The idea imo is that there are some( I know/ have met a few) can't stand seeing players celebrating for "doing their job". Its the older generation who does not like it and the NFL does not want to alienate them.

 

Bottom line is nobody is going to stop watching because of this but some might keep watching because of it.

 

This is the sad truth of the matter. Not as many people demanding celebrations as their are old curmudgeons who frown upon fun.

 

The rules should only ban prolonged celebrations and the use of props, obscenities, or provocation.

I love celebrations..  this is football bitches.

Good points.

 

However, when you are the boss, it's your fault.

I also shoot messengers.

 

PS: Don't laugh at me :(

 

he's not the boss. the bosses are the owners...you know. the ones that hired him, gave him the raise, and actually voted on the rules suggested to them by the competition committee based on suggestions made by the sub-committee.

 

where rules are concerned, he's largely just a figurehead.

The NFL will one day be so corrupt and money driven, it will crumble! A new league should be created

The league and Godell can hide behind sportsmanship or justify it any other way, but I think it's just a sneaky way to pull in some more revenue, and like someone already said, placate the older fanbase that has a stick up their *** but brings in $$$. Taunting never bothered me. Planned celebrations never bothered me. Trashtalk never bothered me. These are grown men that know what they are doing (at least on the field). This is just a game. If you're trying to send a message, be a preacher or something. 

 

NFL is a business. They believe these changes will make them more marketable/profitable.

Anybody upset over these new rules is not going to stop watching. The idea imo is that there are some( I know/ have met a few) can't stand seeing players celebrating for "doing their job". Its the older generation who does not like it and the NFL does not want to alienate them.

Bottom line is nobody is going to stop watching because of this but some might keep watching because of it.


So lets alinate one generation (thats growing and will be bigger) so we can attract one that wont be watching in 20 years? (No offence and probablu not your opinion but just sayin)

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