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just to make it clear...unless you are a belichick fan or a unc fan, no one cares. no one. seriously, no one.

Doubling tripling and quadrupling down on this subject in defense of the pick is reminiscent of a certain mindset that has overtaken the political world. This conversation will become less contentious and dragged out to the point of becoming a dead beaten horse if rational minds can simply agree that we made a mistake missed on a potential franchise center and we will learn from it. All this coping is unnecessary.

Here in lies the rub that the supporting posters continue to ignore. He wasn’t a 2nd round pick in the 2025 class, especially with an ACL tear. It was a dumb pick for any GM who looks ahead to determine values. C and CB were much better values than an injured RB in 2024. If a RB isn’t even playing much in 2024, you have to compare him to 2025. We’re beating a dead horse but only because the defense of the pick is almost comical at this point. We’ve made a ton of poo picks and moves/non trades while Morgan was GM and the assistant GM. It happens, we don’t have to jump through hoops to act like we just had some really bad luck. The 2025 draft class is unknown so far but damn it felt way better afterwards for the first time in a long time. Embrace the potential and stop stamping guaranteed on the box of poo of the 2018-2024 drafts. We are were we aware because of them and 2025 has to hit so we can get past the 7 win max in 7 year hurdle. Also, “flashed his talent” isn’t 9 carries for 22 yards. His one reception for 18 yards isn’t a flash with 11 other touches for 27 yards. He hasn’t proven anything. We have no idea if he’ll contribute in 2026.

Oh for those tired of the Mannings I have bad news, Peytons son Marshal already has college teams after him and he isn't even in HS until this fall... I'd wager we have two Mannings in the NFL in 2030

Push em to the brink!!! Shut em down Freddie!

I tend to look at all of these guys and wonder how committed they are to doing special teams? It's a big deal when you're fighting for roster spots. And we need massive refreshes to all phases of the special teams game. And the idea that four or five of these players could see rotational use outside of special teams would be a win. This team has accumulated quite a bit of dead wood over the last five years and its time to take an axe to some of it. These new fellows have a shot to benefit from that if they can really push. That being said, wow that receivers room is crowded right now. I'm not sure if I was a vet player with more than 2 years experience other than Adam Thielen if I'd be too sure of my future here. Tet is guaranteed a spot, Coker earned his for sure and they aren't done with XL developing yet. That's only two to three spots left for the entire room. It's going to be very competitive and better for Bryce's future, too. Safety and linebacker are the opportunity spots here this season. There's room for the right guy and we may see a starter eventually from one of these UDFAs, either by merit or injury.

Aho and Jarvis just gripping it too tight right now. Relax, play their 200 ft game and the shots will start to find the net. Freddie has been excellent and welcome back Mista Svechnikov. Burns.....well, thank goodness for Slavin.

Supposedly he plans on staying in college for all 4 years.

I'm pretty sure hes one of the few who dont need the money..... Not to mention he is the next generation Manning.... you'd better bet his grandfather and uncles want the legacy to continue.

I had long said he was one of the main players I wanted at 8 if T-Mac wasn't there or if we just weren't going to take him even if he was. I genuinely wonder if his agent was working to keep the extent of his knee problems quiet, because it's clear the teams all were much more concerned about how long his knee might hold up than any analyst ever talked about, so us fans would never have had any idea of course.

It's not a good look for him, but I don't put much stock in all this. He's a DT who is a gamer and not a workout warrior to begin with, add in that he probably celebrated a bit too much post-draft and wasn't keeping in his best shape, and it makes sense for him to be out of shape right now. If he still looks like this come training camp, then it's a much bigger red flag to keep an eye on

https://x.com/KeepBlitzin/status/1921248759255589206 Practice ended about 30 mins ago and Jimmy Horn is still on the jugs.

If we suck I hope we land Sellers. Ideally we are picking closer to 20 next draft

Joe Person working on his next piece of Journalism. In fairness to Joe, Morgan was deceptive and tight lipped this year. And I think Graham would have been the pick had he fallen.

We need to come out like this series belongs to us. Take all pressure off the road trip, just fuging take this game and go to DC ready to close it. We can win this in 5, and looking at Florida in their war with Toronto, we need to do it in 5 because they're likely going 7 and getting the extra rest could be huge for our legs.

Jarvis

fug it times 2! Getting this up early again. Canes started slow, but Rod changed the lines and it was off to the races. Freddie was alllll world. Keep playing boys. Believe like we do. Raleigh is behind you. LLLLFG Canes!!!

Yeah I got the games mixed up, it’s Leafs and Panthers 2-2.

Just extrapolating Hellebuyck's play on the road so far. They have to steal a game in Dallas since they dropped game 1 at home.

Nevermind got the games mixed up.

Woll played great but Bob played better. I'm surprised its 2-2. Leafs big scorers need to get going. What else is new?

If we can have 4 good ones at the top of the roster (I see Coker as a lock--along with TMac, AT, and XL) the bottom two should be developmental players, one with special teams skills. That is how I would develop it. The bottom two? Depends on special teams, as you know. I am not confident Renfrow makes the team but I sorta want him to--we are very young at WR and two veterans would balance the inexperience. I see Horn making it (special teams/WR), but I also see George or Hudson having a good camp and making the team. Moore? If Renfrow does not make it, I feel that Moore will be #5. Horn is the front runner for #6 (special teams). If George and Hudson go to the PS and can develop for a season, in 2026 AT and maybe Moore/Renfrow will be gone. One or both could step up. This is in an ideal world, of course. But to have 2 developing WRs on the PS