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I see that last point I think there is a power struggle between Canales and Evero or somebody. With that language about ‘pushing for the young guys’, was it? That doesn’t say I am in charge. And that could be a problem. Beta style. You get this poo with offensive focused coaches. I have always preferred defensive guys because they keep you in the game. and other stuff. I am not a Canales man in the sense that I am like the Bryce people, fervent and stubborn (sorry y’all). I want to have a reason that makes sense to me to turn on him. Everyone has different standards. For instance I was done with Hurnry the first time he traded a future first. Fox, 2010 sealed it. I stay patient. This thing with Bryce is probably the only time I have railed against a draft pick. Pick swaps yes, players no. It is a special kind of stupid when I can immediately see it. Fwiw.

This is what happens when you let a guy who should be a career backup get 3 years of starts under his belt.

This is a joke, right? Does he watch the games? Tied for worst road record as a starting qb with a guy who played over 50 years ago. Really special level of analysis.

There is only a handful of players that dont have a lot of blame. The coaches have blame, the front office has blame. 99% of people in the franchise have plenty of blame.

Couple observations watching film this am: 1) I really like a lot of solid concepts CAR is running & I believe it’s one of the reasons we’ve seen a much better version of Young (although still work to do there) https://x.com/kurt13warner/status/1972664760874512462?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

Bryce won't play another game after this season, for anyone.

I don't think Canales is going anywhere anytime soon as long as Dan Morgan is GM & yes i agree Canales is a big part of the overall problem & has no business being an NFL head coach . however , how are you going to upgrade talent with the same person who assembled the least talented roster in the NFL ? this team needs to simply hire a new GM until then it's going to be much of the same even if you replace Canales & Bryce Young ...just saying

Thats like cutting off your penis because you're tired of screwing the homely girl next door. How about going out to a bar to see if you can improve your odds of getting laid by someone else.

Well I didn't remember many advocating that here at all, perhaps as a backup lol. But Browning is just a backup, not some hidden starter.

I'm done with Bryce but saying that fug this team needs some juice. Ours players cant break a tackle to save thier lives

Dude wasn't even jumping. Bryce threw it straight to his grill.

The little league parent complex with Bryce is the weirdest thing. That’s really the only way I can think of describing it.

I need to avoid the huddle and these tidbits during working hours lest I succumb to day drinking.

Give everyone a raise and then fire them. Hire myself and give myself a raise and then fire myself. Rehire Hurney then fire him again. Grab Mrs. Teppers ass and sue myself for harassment and force myself to sell the team.

There were certain posters on here that wanted to give Jake Browning a big contract this offseason because they've had enough of Bryce. He looks pitiful.

Not trading Brian burns for two firsts and not immediately signing him was also a giant mistake that I'm SURE he played a role in

Just checking all the threads going on: We hate Tepper We hate Canales Tepper has been way too involved with football operation Tepper fires way way way too many coaches But we've also noticed that Tepper has been comparatively quiet last season and this season thus far (at least, publicly) with regards to football stuff. Maybe he's turned a page and letting the Football people do their thing? We want Tepper to fire Canales We can't be angry about Tepper firing coaches every 12 months AND saying that he needs to fire Canales in the same breath We can only choose one: which do we pick?

Nadeau must make this team. Dude is a stud.

Bryce has been discussed so much it feels like shouting into a storm at this point but the bottom line is Bryce is not physically gifted enough to be a difference making QB (i.e. Allen, Lamar, Mahomes, etc). His best possible outcome is a high level game manager (Brock Purdy esque and yes Brock can make some throws Bryce can't) If Bryce does not have elite talent at the receiver position/o-line and has an average scheme/OC/HC, he will not succeed. Now ALL of that being said Bryce was part of the problem yesterday but he wasn't the ONLY problem. It is very reasonable to argue that because QB is the most important position on the field that Bryce is our number one problem rn. But the coaching is also a huge issue. This team is largely average to below average in terms of talent at nearly every position. I see three Pro Bowl caliber players on this roster right now, which simply put is not good enough. You want to improve this roster? I don't disagree QB could be upgraded, but in addition to that I believe we also need a new HC as well then and need a major injection of talent across the roster. Very, very hard to do all of that in one offseason

Whatever agreement they had on Young shouldn't apply to the rest of the team. It doesn't excuse his failures unrelated to Young. Thats the rub with me. Tepper is not controlling that. If he is then Tepper truly is the head coach which makes Canales nothing more than a OC and not a good one at that.

yes Andy Reid would not start Bryce Young at Qb Bryce Young will never see the field again as a starting Qb in the NFL once he departs / leaves Carolina i think some people forget BY will have to earn the starting job somewhere else.its not going to be the same situation as in Carolina where he is the starting Qb because of where he was drafted ...just saying my crystal ball is on point

Maybe this is the rub: I am not convinced that he had the okay to seek an upgrade in waiting. He did bring Hooker in. I know that doesn’t seem like much but it might indicate a want. I am reminded of a back and forth on the Monday meetings we had last year and you atringly asserted that Tepper was meddling. Yet you are discounting the possibility, or the degree of it now maybe. Because he Could have put conditions on things like no undermining Bruce he gets every chance. Everything I have seen aligns with that Especially the 2024 draft fwiw. I believe Evero has Tepee’s backing and he got autonomy. Or could have. It is reasonable to assume that possibility especially given how lightly Canales has treaded discussing defensive issues and personnel. Food for thought.

Meh. The Jets aren't some great team either. And a lot of us have been fans of Fields since college.

I would have liked someone other than Dalton to be brought in, bexause even if Bryce had come out playing circa late 2024, you want a better backup than Dalton if he goes down with an injury. Ah well.