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He will only get dump offs cause Bryce cant put enough velocity on the ball to match his speed

I don't know why folks feel threatened discussing this stuff. It doesn't excuse Bryce's poor moments. That 4th down throw that he missed TMac on was vomit inducing. At the same time, what do we expect to happen with this type of stuff affecting the play?

As you continue to derail your own thread LOLOLOLOL You can't make this stuff up. Clown activity.

And I'm talking about you derailing your own thread in your initial post. Speaking of being daft... Your cope is constantly getting bent out of shape about people being critical of Bryce. Look around. People are shitting on Tepper, Morgan, Evero, Canales, the LBs, Moehrig, and on and on but oddly you only take issue with criticisms of a certain individual.

Renfrow better have a long talk with his fellow tiny WR friend Jimmy..... about protecting himself and hosptial balls at this level. Renfrow is bigger than Horn. 2 inches and 10 pounds on him. Bryce really struggles w/ the small WR type.

I don’t know that I would come to that interpretation of those doings. I might agree that they are two different kinds of quarterbacks but I would separate them into the categories of NFL capable and non capable. Reich knew that young was a disaster when he got a close up look at his bag of QB tricks. Word is he wanted to sit him so he could maybe get some remedial coaching to bring him up to snuff for competing against the big boys. He knew the ship would go straight to the bottom with Captain Bryce. Two different kinds of QBs that have success in the NFL are the backyard athletes and the traditional pocket passing surgeons. I think either coach could deal with either style as long as the body and the tools were suited to the job. Maybe not, I can’t think of examples of both kinds for either coach. Vince fuging Lombardi would fail with Bryce and June Jones would also fail with him. My opinion.

More eeeeevil PFF data that doesn't exclusively focus on one player.

Yeah, the VP of Football Analytics is a PFF guy and so is the Director of Data Science.

All I can really say is that Canales is coaching himself out of a job at the rate he's going. It's unacceptable to have this team come out seemingly unprepared.

You do that by showing him Bryce can’t do what’s being asked of him, not by calling dumb plays and being like “trust me bro.”

So FF waiver wire addition this week you say...

I can't belive it took an injury to get Moore out of rotation. Him ans Scott shouldn't have made any roster in the NFL.

Maybe the coaches are having to run each play by Tepper. That's the common denominator

No? There's no rule for that, just what some fans want. And we probably start trading assets if we hit the trade deadline with one win anyway. It's more about if the team can improve in the next few weeks. Evero is clearly the "HC" of the defense. He and Canales clearly disagree on who should play. Evero still being DC, and who he is playing, is an indication that Canales doesn't have control of the team. Bryce is IMO a separate situation. Dude just doesn't have it.

This thread is talking about the grades, which includes Bryce's. I'm referencing a thread that you personally derailed the other day that had nothing to do with Bryce. You can't possibly be that daft. As for as excuses for Bryce... name them? I can't wait to hear that playing his rookie season behind the 6th-string LG and 7th-string RG with DJ Chark as WR1 are "excuses." I've already stated he played poorly and has not played well enough to have his bonus option picked up. How is that cope?

Eric Eager was hired in May 2024 and this was the first draft with him involved. He's the "entire analytics department" some folks are referencing. Never mind that Football Analytics Manager, Benjamin Contrino, started with the team as an intern in 2019 with no ties to PFF.

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Wow Rozebum.... just wow. What a horrible signing & player and same goes to Trevin Wallace. That blew up in Morgan's face, not sure what Evero is supposed to do with those two.

I think Canales is protecting him too with some of these play calls. Like he gets fired if Bryce does or something.

Yep, I did go out of my way to say at best. If Bryce is having one of his 3-ish good games a season, he can hit that 12 yard pass.

Nah game managers hit wide open guys 12 yards down.

To be fair tho, it has produced what seems like our best draft in years. Our top 2 picks look legit which is a nice change and our mid round picks are actually contributing.

"But Bryce was turnover free!" Yeah, at best, a game manager. AT BEST...

the coach revolving door needs to stop, it's not good for the long-term players to have to constantly adjust to some new personnel