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  2. I don't care about all the other pieces. It comes down to Bryce vs Caleb and this year will tell both teams have invested heavily in both
  3. Adios and good night, done talking about what we should have done but it’s weird when anti-tankers try and get back on the high horse.
  4. Yes. Fitt said he liked Young for two years. He hitched his wagon to him. Reich and Young were going 2-15, nothing I said we should get would have saved him. A new coach plus Tepper (and Morgan) would have wanted the draft assets we kept or got to be used by a better GM/Coach. SMH, you need to read my post and your own again. You said: “So we should have sold off all of our talent and what?” I was being sarcastic that they still were in the roster because the guys you are saying we shouldn’t have sold off got sold off anyway but instead of getting full value, we got scraps. We had an opportunity to sell at the highs and instead we let the stocks lose 50-75% and then sold them. Because we didn’t tank in 2022 when the Rams basically handed the idea to us, we either set the team back several years to where we won’t do anything and will be back at the drawing board or kept enough talent off the team that we may make the playoffs but we still won’t be a top team like an extra handful of 1st rounders could have gotten us.
  5. Holy poo... we have allowed the fewest goals in the playoffs, total. Including the teams that lost in the first round... lmao
  6. It was nothing. It was a nice run in an easy schedule that did nothing but lose us DJ Moore and a lot more. We were 2-15 in 2023. Based on your logic, that winning finish should have been a launching point. For as much as you want to say we shouldn’t have taken a risk, you still can’t admit that the plans we tankers laid out were proven correct. There’s no revisionist history. We said we should have traded Burns to the Rams. We said we should have sold off anything not bolted down like Brown and Horn and even Icky because they were in the 5 year plan. There is no disconnect, we tried to keep winning and draft a rookie QB and we lost about 4 1st round picks of value that could have been given to the guys you think might be the right crew.
  7. You’re assuming Fitt still gets fired at the same time. That’s the problem with all these hypothetical hindsight thoughts. If we had a fire sale so to speak I’m not sure the GM gets fired a year or two later due to a bad roster and bad record. Fitt went into win now mode, made it seem like we were only a QB away “we won’t drafting this high again” trading picks for vets etc and when he couldn’t show results he was fired. I’m sure this was all mentioned in his GM interviews. What’s his plan to turn us around and how quickly can he do it. Also you want last year’s CMC and Burns on our roster? At their price? Moving on from both was the right call, with Burns being the wrong time. If a team does a full roster strip down rebuild it can buy the GM more time as long as everyone is on the same page.
  8. All 3 of them played in the playoffs. Tua is 38-24. We are 24-60 since Tua’s been in the league. Lol at Luck being a bad pick. I love Cam but Luck has more playoff wins and more pro bowls even with his injuries, missed years and early retirement. How about the Texans trading away their stars for a bunch of firsts and starting Davis Mills for two years to get the #2 pick with no trade up and selecting Stroud? See, if you pick the right QB it can work.
  9. Even "mediocre" QB play in the NFL is hard to find. Everyone here always acting like this is Madden and talented players grow on trees or you can just find them anywhere. They don't and inevitably this is the reason why even Sam fn Darnold got a bag this offseason. 49ers draft well for their scheme so they will be fine. If this was other franchises it would be tough, but i think they will be fine.
  10. lol we are gonna have to pay Bryce like 75mil a year now when it comes time to extend him
  11. Both Rams 1st rounders would have been Morgan’s picks. Also, if we didn’t have to trade the boat for Young, the 1st overall pick we gave away would have also been Morgan’s pick as Fitterer tied his future to Young and Young’s rookie year with Reich was going to tank Fitterer regardless. There would be no excuse to keep him longer. Also am I in the twilight zone here? Should have sold off all our talent? Are Moore, Burns and CMC still on the roster now? I feel like I would have noticed them last season.
  12. Seriously? A CB who missed all that time on his rookie deal and was also a top 10 pick when the guys picked right before and after have been studs. A RB our GMs tried to replace with FAs and 2nd rounders and two backup level players is one of the best drafts we’ve ever had? I’d argue that the 2011/2012 drafts were better even with just Cam and Luke/Norman. Here’s the drafts I think were better: 2017, maybe 2018, 2015, 2013, 2011, 2012, 2008, 2007, 2001, 2002 (just Pepp) I’m hoping 2025 is way better as well. Honestly, we’ve kind of sucked at drafting overall and that’s the only reason you can even remotely call Horn, Hubbard, Tremble and BC a good draft let alone one of our best ever. Good teams that draft well would laugh at that as a great draft. If you want to look at say the 2023 Lions draft, you’d get 4 stud/above average/average starters not just 3 replaceable starters/backups and a top 10 pick that missed half his games. That’s a draft that helps turn a team into a playoff team. Our record since our 2021 draft is 19-49. A best ever draft doesn’t go 19-49.
  13. I remember when football was great. Wasn't this century.
  14. Bingo. You can't pay that type of player elite franchise QB money. That average starter type player can excel when he's surrounded by top shelf talent in a great offensive system but pay him elite QB money and you're going to really struggle to surround him with the type of talent you need to carry him. You pay those elite franchise QBs because they can carry your roster. You can't pay guys who have to be carried. Bryce showed glimpses down the stretch last year. I really hope he keeps building on that. But before we back up the Brinks truck he needs to show that he's the type of QB who can lift up and carry the offense because when you pay those guys that's what they're gonna have to do.
  15. This. Weird stuff moves like this means there’s always money involved.
  16. I want Florida, just wanted the series to go to 7 with Toronto. lol
  17. I just need a point from Knies for my Toronto scrub bingo card to hit.
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