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Kiffin is obviously a very capable football coach but he's also completely devoid of any basic decency. He's gotta be wired wrong, a sociopath or something. He seems personable and likeable enough that people want to give him chances and believe he's changed even though they KNOW he's gonna stab them in the back the first chance he gets.

Umm plenty of people were calling him out: height, weight, durability, arm, legs and footwork. Lots didn't know on Stroud but it was an easy call IMO in comparison. Mostly I hated the trade, the hires and the way the crew was proceeding. Failure upon conception really. After the Rhule years it was pretty infuriating all around personally. It always come back to the media hype and if this isn't proof that that is mostly noise I don't know what else could convince anyone.

I love ya'll to death but as the resident Ole Miss fanboy, please stay the eff away from Trinidaddy. I remember what you did to Matt Corral....

-7. SMH. He will fit right in with this group.

He has another year of college eligibility I believe.

Love that. Let him drive that program into the dirt.

Finished key west now in Tampa

Folks, we're talking about a potential mid-round pick here. He's not gonna check all the boxes, that's why he's not a 1st round prospect.

He’s clearly not playing like the first half of the season (or either of the last two for that matter). You can point to the drop off taking place since he busted his non throwing shoulder in the Rams game. I’m glad it’s benefitting us. Again, sorry praising another opposing player that’s not CJ Stroud gets you so bothered that you bring stuff from two months ago

I'd DeBoer had went to Michigan then Kiffin would've never coached a game at LSU. He's probably at Bama next year when they fire DeBoer.

That kind of stuff gets him taken off the Panthers big board. lol

Trinidad is a winner. 2 D-2 championships before going to Ole Miss. One of the things that I really like about him, outside of his good QB play

Yeah, I will also say, one play in particular really impressed me when he ran probably 20+ yards back, and I think he reversed field twice, but when he started running back towards the LOS he changed his stride to keep his shoulders squared to the LOS and still was running fast enough to outrun the rushers. It wasn’t even that he outran them that impressed me, it was the wherewithal and body control to change your gait mid-play, even at the expense of a full sprint, so that you were prepared to throw the ball when the opportunity came. And I’ll have to see more of him to compare like throwing distance-type arm strength, but velocity he passed with flying colors. He was zipping some absolute lasers out there, and I think, after what we’ve seen the last three years with Bryce, to me, that is much more important than being able to throw 70 yards downfield (although I love if they can do that as well lol).

I wouldn't call it a hyperfocus, they factor into eval. All part of a bigger picture.

And he will leave LSU as soon as an NFL team comes calling again. Would be funny as hell if it were this off season and he bolts before coaching one game for LSU!

I mean, Brees was a sub 6' guy too(although they listed him as 6 foot). It is not a worry if you are an elite player. Even Flutie Flakes was able to succeed at the NFL level at his height. All QB's still need throwing lanes and different QB's play the game in a way that maximizes their abilities so they can be successful. All these sub-6 QB's we are talking about have had more NFL success that easily 80+% of 6-3 or better NFL QB's. That's why I keep beating this horse. It isn't about measurables, it's about abilities. That extends well beyond the QB position. Xavier Legette has elite abilities and measurables. Yet a slight little midget with no where near the athleticism is an infinitely better WR(McConkey). Jonathan Mingo is way more athletic than Puka Nacua. How is that working out? Never hyperfocus on measurables. It's a small part of a much bigger picture.

His legs looked limited in school to me. Good enough at that level but it never looked NFL level. All the guys you mentioned made Bryce look slow and limited. What propped him up was other non-NFL level guys on the field. Absolutely on the 2nd part. That's becaude when he bails he doesn't have to ability to make it work more often. Lots of times this year and past teams let him scramble because they obviously didn't see it as a serious threat. Hell Payton was allowed to run because he was so slow and took off so infrequently. Bryce isn't that bad but he is closer to that than to Murray.

This. Its not tennessee bad, but the Ole Miss offense is a very hard one to correlate to nfl.

Crazy Old Al and his overhead projector knew years ago.

I do think his below average arm strength is an issue because his footwork is still fuged up too often. He isn't one of these guys that can arm throw his way out of trouble. He doesn't have a true noodle arm but it is in the bottom quarter of the NFL. I do agree that his confidence and field reading ability are much larger issues.

I'd say the height issue is a problem here, but overplayed in the greater context. If a guy is 6'0 but a stud, then why not, but absolutely stay away from anything once you get into the 5' range. That's where you get into legitimate physical limitation territory. One thing guys like BY/Kyler/Russ run into- you want a guy that's able to fully survey the field at all levels in the pocket, and they can't, have to modify the traditional style to do so. They can make runs/have good teams really help prop them, but when it comes time to put the team on their back in the pocket, it's rather difficult.

Hard to tell in that offense. It’s a one read and go scheme, you aren’t making progressions. Same offense that gave us Corral (and Dart)

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/ncaa/lane-kiffin-pockets-major-bonus-after-ole-miss-cfp-win-over-georgia-11295783 The fact he got LSU to pay him bonuses for Ole Miss winning games is so bananas. LSU really is an insanely stupid school.

There is an advantage to a player having the ability to extend plays with their feet to allow guys to get open. Bryce had that in droves and to an extent he still does. I think the biggest knock is that he doesn't have great ability to threaten with his feet, however. McNabb could do that, Wilson could do that, Lamar is insanely dangerous, Murray can do that, etc, etc. But, there is also a fine line between extending plays to throw downfield and getting yourself in an even more difficult spot. Bryce tends to do the latter too frequently. The lack of serious scrambling ability(he isn't inept here, it's just a lower tier ability) hamstrings his scrambling around to get guys open. They don't have to worry about him gashing them for big yardage because he isn't an elite athlete. He is average, at best.