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I think Canales paired w/ Bryce has been figured out. I think Canales is pretty simplistic. Which he told us when we hired him. You need a QB like Baker he is flat out going to make big throws downfield. Or a Jake. He isn't some modern day scheme dude. Run run set up the downfield stuff. It's not going to be the scheme but players that win. I mean, it's not literally every possession but that was every passing O Canales has ever been around and it's the core of what his O is structured to be. Bryce doesn't fit that. Bryce needs a modern day playcaller and scheme w/ the weapons to go with it. Dave issue is the same as the Frank issue ultimately. We got a front office that is building something that actually syncs up. Failure by design. If you wanted Bryce, you don't hire Frank. Or Dave. And you don't draft XL. You draft Ladd. Carolina makes simple hard. Which you see that a lot in life.

I felt like this season was over back in 2023. Game 1. I hate that I am being serious.

Well if we're going to dumpster dive at least we're looking on the roster of a contender.

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Falcons aren't going to go prevent when they're up on us. They'll keep grinding until we're roadkill and embarrass us at home. Them 52 Us 3

That and Canales has been figured out.

If that is the case, we made a great trade. If we are relying on a WR to help our QB read defensive coverages, yikers... It sucks, but I think we all have our final info on Bryce - the guy is not a franchise QB

I can't see it happening this year.

and most really good QBs are nickel and diming folks these days because the league really fixates now on sitting in 2 high shell these days to take away those deeper balls (big shift to those 2 high S looks in recent years). But with Bryce teams aren't having to devote energy to taking that away and it impacts coverage elsewhere. You see that with S play for example vs Bryce. Makes his intermediate passing more difficult.

Well if you can find the interviews you can put the pieces together. There was some tension during and after the game. It was the sign that Frank was a dead man walking. The was other clues leading up to that game that let me know the knives were out in BOA but I couldn't prove it until the Seattle game when he started Dalton and completely changed the play sheet. That was a FU to Tepper and Fitterer.

Much like Arizona where it seemed like we always win against them, we always seem to go 1-1 against the Falcons. Should we lose... absolutely. Could we accidently win and cock over our draft position? Possibly

Btw I am glad this came up because it is a good story. I guess that is subjective but I liked it.

As long as Bryce is our QB, I have to believe the odds heavily favor whoever is playing us.

Agree. There may be one or two times where he hit someone in stride or put it out there for a WR to go get it but I struggle to recall them.

I think this is likely a comfortable Atlanta victory. They have a pretty punishing running attack that should give us fits. Obviously, if Bryce turns the ball over early and often, it will be a hole we have to dig out of like last week. I don't think they are going to take their foot off the gas as much as the Cardinals did.

Not much to tear down on the roster. A few contracts to dump but really pretty bare bones due to years of poor management and not being able to get more expensive people to come into their mess. 100% on holdovers. The problem is the Teppers will be a part of the hiring at some level, which they have failed at in every way. I can't see a way around that hurdle unless it's pure luck at this point.

Like I said, it doesn't matter how far he can or cannot throw the ball. Most (95%) of the game is played within 20 yards of the line of scrimmage anyway. Having a big arm is plus for sure but not completely necessary. Height and weight is up there and I would argue more important than arm strength. Accuracy and being able to function under pressure is priority number 1 if you ask me.

A serious mid-week question: If you were forced to pick who'll win straight-up for this week's game, who's your choice? Carolina or Atlanta? Pros for Carolina: finally, a home game. Carrying over some of the excitement from last week's last 5 minutes. Division rival, chip on our shoulder to prove we can win, etc. Cons: some key injuries, XL. And, well.... (waves hands around) all that other stuff Pros for Atlanta: uh, they won last week? (reason for the question: weekly office football pool has the matchup on the sheet and I'm debating which to go with)

we have the same OLine and 2 1k rushers from last season. Is the run game bad because teams are stacking the box because there is no fear of Bryce beating them deep?

The Cardinals game was crazy. Everyone with the facemasks with fangs on them. Night game too. The city is really ready to go crazy for a team I believe, we just can't get any kind of consistent results. Combined with the Hornets/Bobcats it's just giga depressing.

I think his placement on deep balls is more often than not, just bad. When it comes to downfield balls, Bryce generally makes life hard. You actually don't need a cannon for the vertical stuff on the sidelines. Some of the best deep throwers really are just well placed lobs. . Now the deep middle? Yeah, I like a strong arm. Bryce never really sets up a WR to go get it. If you get in position and beat your guy he is going to turn it into a 50/50 letting the defender contest it or make you have to worry about staying in bounds.

We need a full scale tear-down and rebuild. Done properly this time. No more holdovers from the previous regime. If Morgan goes, Canales goes, all the scouts and front office personnel go and all the assistants go. Hire someone to actually consult and build an organization, not just put together a staff.

Well im sure some were drops if you look at each one. I'm not interested enough to look. It doesn't matter if he can throw it a mile at this point. He's just not an nfl qb.

I think the coaches don’t want opponents to see his limited range. I don’t think it’s a secret at this point though.