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Acting like a complete clown and wonders why he doesn't get the start lol. Literally being a mime to media is hilarious though, just glad it's not on our team.

1) The biggest elephant in the room is Bryce Young. Even if he turns it around the second half of the season, I don't think you can waste another year on him. He would absolutely have to show out and I still wouldn't pick up his 5th year. That being said, I would sign a vet who can run the full Canales offense and draft someone in the 1st. My picks here are Jamies cheap from the Giants, do it before the trade deadline when other teams have their guys go down. In the draft I'm looking at Nussmier. He has one of the best arms in CFB, can make every throw, and is a "gun slinger" type. If he was not injured he is going top 3 this year, I think with his injury and down year we could get him around 7-10 where we most likely are picking. His injury is seriously impacting his ability downfield to make those great deep shots he hit regularly last year. Everything I know about an ab/obllique injury is you can play through it and it is not a serious or lingering issue. There are other QBs here I like as well but think will be gone by the time we pick, I don't expect us to be picking top 5 this year. Jameis/Nuss lets Canales run his full playbook and neither of those guys are scared to throw interceptions and will push throws where they are supposed to go. Probably would be frustrating with growing pains, but the polar opposite of the last 3 years. 2) Go find the best ex HC as your next DC. There has been a trend the past few years of defensive HC's getting fired and going on to be super star DCs. Saleh this year and he's killing it for the 49ers with no Bosa and a bunch of young guys (and older Warner). Candidates this year that are realistic and few but I think Aaron Glenn and Jonathan Gannon are both potential options. Glenn prob gets a second year unless they go 0-17 but Gannon has been there 3 years and would be a great get for us. Extreme longshot could be Ryans but I think is extremely unlikely he gets let go with 1 bad season unless CJ just regresses again exponentially this year. Tepper will need to open the checkbook here, which he has shown he doesn't hesitate to do. 3) Draft PFF again. I know PFF get's a lot of hate on here but I can't remember a draft we have gotten so much NFL level production on returns this early. TMac and Scourton both look to be the real deal. Princely is flashing (think he has our 1 sack?) and needs to get bigger to play the run. Etienne, Ransom, and Evans are all contributing where I would deem above their draft grade. Jackson doesn't show up on the stat sheets and JHJ haven't played yet but those late draft guys are more flyers than anything. I'm going QB first round, MLB, S, or OLB second round, and then BPA the remaining players based on the PFF scoring. I think QB and one more piece on D that is a plug and play starter we need to reach, but the rest of the roster needs so many upgrades just get BPA. 4) Sign one more starting WR and starting OL. Yes, putting more into the WR group will suck but it's clear XL won't be the WR2 we hoped. Coker is iffy with constant injuries. Moore is probably gone and JHJ/Renfrow aren't #2s. If we are going to invest in another 1st round QB, surround him with talent from the beginning. TMac + an avg FA #2 vet + Coker/Renfrow/JHJ is an okay room. Same applies to OL. T- lose Nijman, resign Brady, Moton isn't going anywhere, pay Ickey. Lose Zavala, Hunt and Lewis aren't going anywhere. You need at least 1 more NFL quality guard, pay the money and find one. We STILL won't be paying QB anything so just pony up and protect your next guy.

The "boy wonder" will not thrive anywhere. Back up or mop up duty is his high ceiling.

Implying that Bryce Young can be fixed?

There has never been a football coach alive or dead that could make Bryce Young a franchise quarterback just to be clear.

Even if we acquired him I feel like it would go no differently than it would if we just played Hendon Hooker. As such I'd rather just play the guy that isn't completely self absorbed to the point he's acting like a mime in front of cameras.

If I'm the coach I'm going ape poo right now. I'm ready to stomp into the owners office like "Are you happy now? Was the publicity worth it? This kid is putting me in a spot where I HAVE to cut him if I'm going to maintain any respect on the locker room. At the very least he's getting suspended for conduct detrimental to the team. That's the least I can get away with."

DC was hired to fix Bryce young. He has failed at that. he has shown nothing that indicates he should be able to draft a qb or hire his own DC. Who would he even hire? Who do you think Canales can call up and convince to take this job? What personal relationship can he leverage? Is there another evangelical masturbation enthusiast he can holler at

Can’t wait much longer if they are going to do something like this. Cam even mentioned how difficult it is to come in and learn a full offense in a couple weeks and that’s coming from an MVP QB, not a rookie. Shedeur would realistically need a month to grasp our sets and language before throwing him out there and by then we are half way through the season. Unless the FO truly believes that Shedeur can be a starting QB in the league to the point that they’d pass on a first round QB in next years draft then there’s really no reason to send draft capital for a QB who wouldn’t fully have command of our offense until the following year and by then he’d more than likely be competing with a first round QB. It just screams wasting assets for an attempted quick fix. Best option is to trade Bryce to Vegas, ride out the suck with Dalton, and try again next year. But our FO seems hell bent on milking any and every value a player has before trading them for scraps (except Thielen).

This is one of the most bizarre things I think I’ve ever seen in a locker room. Wtf?

I agree with you that the gameday coaching and situational football scenarios leave a great deal to be desired. On both sides of the ball. Although we must be clear. Evero was forced on Canales by the Tepper's. Canales didn't even interview with anyone else. We hired him solely because of the work he did with past QB's and because he was an offensive mind that had what was perceived to be a strong season with the Bucs. We had a hard nosed culture creator like Mike Vrabel scheduled for an interview but most Panthers fans were in agreement we didn't want a retread and I get the sense he would not have meshed with the Tepper's similarly to how Jim Harbaugh would not have. Because they would have told the Tepper's to fưck off if need be. In hindsight we probably should have rolled the dice on Vrabel but the issue there is I do not believe he would have stood for continuing to play Bryce Young despite dozens of games worth of tape showing he is simply not a starting quarterback. There is no way Vrabel would have made it this long without moving on to another QB. And I also do not believe he would have stood by while the FO made zero attempt to bring in any legitimate competition in the QB room two offseasons in a row. Not a chance in hell. Arguing over whether or not Canales is or isn't "it" is pointless at this juncture. Everything we've done last year and this year has revolved around catering to and building around Bryce Young and our team has continually been worse off for it. Continuing to play him and drag this out is only going to make things worse for everyone involved.

Dave Canales was always going to be a lottery ticket. Odds are against success but there was a small, tiny, itty bitty chance it could pay out. At this point he’s the crumpled scratchy lotto ticket you find in the parking lot.

What's been shocking this season is how quiet the media is about Bryce this season. We saw an article come out from NYT this week but that's because it was a Patriots writer and this Tice clip is about all I could find. Most other convos from the bigger outlets were mostly focused on the Pats or the Panthers as a whole.

And that right there is why he was plummeting down draft boards. If you're evaluated as not likely to be a starter and probably a career backup this is exactly what you DON'T want out of that backup QB role. The near unanimous word out of teams that interviewed him was that he came off as incredibly cocky and entitled and wasn't at all prepared for the interview. This kid really needs to stop sabotaging himself. I thought falling into the late 5th might be a wake up call but doesn't look like it.

Bring him in. Trade them Rozebum or Legette. See what he's got because we don't have poo at QB anyways

I'm not sure why people are surprised. The football people in Cleveland picked Gabriel over Sanders because they thought he was the better prospect for them. They looked like they wanted to crawl under a table as the Sanders pick was being announced because that pick probably wasn't made by them.

I'm just glad it's becoming official. The end should be near. The poor takes, ridiculous excuses made and BS that's been slung can finally be in our rear view with him. Just got to get to the finish line and make it official

Here’s him acting like a dumbass today because he thinks everything should be handed to him and don’t have the emotional intelligence to digest why Dillon Gabriel is starting and not him. The Ravens wanted to draft him and he would be starting this week since Lamar is hurt, but he didn’t want to be a back up. Now he’s a 3rd string QB on team as bad as us. https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1973449896507351324?s=46

At this point, we need to turn every stone possible. Being his compensation probably wouldn't be much, it's not hurting to trade a late pick for a possible answer. If he flames, he was nothing more than a late rd pick. I'd rather try this and use our other high picks to continue to build the roster.

Only old athletes who never did anything in college or only in their last season.

We have two weak side 43 linebackers playing inside in a 34

Canales and Evero after their eventual firings

I think the Saints have far more problems than QB. Rattler hasn't looked bad in the games ive watched but good lord they need serious help across the board on offense. I cant remember which game exactly it was but I saw that poor guy hit 3 receivers in a row square in the chest or hands and them just drop it. It was rough.

It's so obvious that the offense is handcuffed by the QB position. Some folks complain about everyone constantly complaining about Bryce but he plays the most important position in the game and when your limitations are hamstringing the entire offense you're cooked. Bryce is not the reason special teams had an awful day and he's not the reason our LBs suck but he is the primary limiting factor of our offense and that is consistently putting our already had defense in terrible positions. The QB spot is our biggest roster issue. It's just that simple. No, having a legit QB wouldn't fix all of our problems but it sure would create hope and lead to a much different overall fan vibe.

He just holds on to the ball too long for not having any elite traits. He took the longest time in the NFL in preseason to throw.