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Mainly because it's a QB driven league and our QB struggles to complete routine throws.
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Id rather have him. Absolute DOG. Could probably be had in the 3rd round. He will out play Sellers this weekend. Book it
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Mike Shula is his OC, he is #fuged
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I think the way they addressed the IOL was moronic. Many of us have been saying for years we needed to draft IOL and there have been plenty of high quality available for us to take, but instead we've taken fliers on guys with high RAS scores, raw potential, or athleticism that turned into the turd burgers that we all knew they would. We draft stupidly and we build stupidly. While we have spent more resources on offense than defense, we've wasted more on sheer ignorance than we've spent on either.
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Bryce Young is a problem — what would you do if you were Dan Morgan?
OldhamA replied to OldhamA's topic in Carolina Panthers
Per my post - I don't think a Trey Lance et al is going to be your franchise QB, but he gives you an opportunity to field a competitive team until you DO find your franchise QB. Rolling the dice on the Draft is a crazy way to operate. Prize = force something open i.e. try to trade for the backup QB the host team actually like. This idea that you're nowhere without a franchise QB is baffling to me. I'd say maybe 10 NFL teams have their franchise guy. The other 22 are settling or actively looking for the next guy. How many of those 22 are actively tanking? The Steelers are running the corpse of Russell Wilson out there ffs trying to compete. You play to win the game. -
Im not saying there's anything wrong with the 3-4. Im saying we've done it wrong. When Tepper forced Ron to switch we didnt have the players to make the change and since then, we haven't been good at acquiring them. If youre going to lean into a scheme, lean into it. We kind of looked at it, but never fully committed and it shows. Now we've got this turd that is just awful.
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Sellers will absolutely not be a late round anything. He'll go 1st round based off traits alone.
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Bryce Young is a problem — what would you do if you were Dan Morgan?
Waldo replied to OldhamA's topic in Carolina Panthers
They need both next year. It's looking like PS Hooker and zip at this point. So just zip really -
I'm simply talking about the overall expenditure of resources on offense vs. defense which is the subject of the thread. We have a LOT more resources both in terms of cap space and in draft capital spent on offense vs. defense.
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Canales does this alot with our TEs too. Unfortunately Sanders and Tremble were out there catching blocks while the JAG's TEs were blowing folk up.
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Yeah, you can clearly build a good NFL defense with either scheme as the foundation. I personally prefer the 4-3 simply because I'm much more familiar with 4-3 concepts. Both schemes offer advantages and disadvantages. I feel like the main reason the 3-4 became prevalent is that 3-4 OLBs are easier to find than 4-3 DEs. Finding an elite 4-3 DE with the size to put his hand in the dirt every down and the bend to get around the edge is tough. It's easier to find a smaller guy who can stand up and covert speed to power. But then the 3-4 forces you to find an absolute unicorn in the form of the 3-4 NT who can hold up to constant double teams. Without a stud at NT you're really fighting an uphill battle.
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QBs get overdrafted due to importance and lack of supply. Does he have the physicals and can he be coached? If so then he will be a top pick. If not then he may be a Panther...
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Linville... really?! The OGs were an overreaction from 2023 when they played like 8 guys that will never play another meaningful snap in the NFL. But the others? Moton, Ickey and Chuba were in Carolina before Bryce. So they had nothing to do with him. Who was the #1 WR heading into 2024? After 2024, who was the #1 WR heading into 2025? I'm not saying they haven't put resources into the offense. I'm saying this narrative that the team is sacrificing the rest of the team to make BY look like an NFL QB is just... a bad take. They are trying to bring in and keep talent on a roster that was/is/TBD mostly void of NFL level players. Now if they would have gone out and overpayed/overdrafted for ex-Alabama players Bryce had chemistry with, then that would have been trying to make Bryce look good to the detriment of the team.
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If not for Jaycee blowing up the block intended for him and tripping up Dyami, that jet sweep might have ended up being a house call. The design and flow of Coen's play calling impressed me, especially with the way he was presenting different looks and using plenty of motion + misdirection.
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He needs to improve his progressions and not look to run every time his primary target is covered. If he does, Sellers could be the number 1 overall pick. If he doesn't, then he'll be a later round flier and the NFL is littered with running QBs that are so so at passing.
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I think Igo put a minimum post count on the TB to avoid trolls. Not sure what it is though.
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Why is everyone focused on BY while the real problem is ignored
Luciu5 replied to cranky's topic in Carolina Panthers
The internet lacks any nuance. BY actually played good I'd say 90% of his snaps. I went back and watched every play. The 10% that was bad though, was REALLY bad. I'm hard pressed to put blame on him for everything though, like the 2nd int and the time where XL ran the wrong route and it looked like he just sailed the pass. I think I counted 3 or 4 bad throws in the game which were on BY. The fumble is 100% on him. That is like the exact same situation as in the Dallas game last year. Same with the first pick. He didn't see the safety, just like that Atlanta game. There were many passing yards lost due to drops. The Renfrow throw (50/50 Bryce imo but Renfrow had his hands on the ball), Tmac drop, and XL not getting his feet down. Those were all chunk plays. Bryce didn't play bad, just wasn't elite and when he made mistakes, they were colossal mistakes. Honestly, I think we should move on, I don't think he is IT, but too much blame for this game is going his way imo. -
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The Panthers’ Bryce Young Problem is Getting Old
raleigh-panther replied to Proudiddy's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah. I was responding to another poster, and only to the poster’s spin i think all of us are sick of it, all of it we just want to be proud of the team we support and enjoy the game played st the highest level on sundays and cheer them on With the current owner, FO, players, it is hard to imagine that as a possibility -
The Panthers’ Bryce Young Problem is Getting Old
Waldo replied to Proudiddy's topic in Carolina Panthers
Anyone that's willing to run the limited scheme he requires will be a laughing sstock. The NFL isn't school -
I dislike that this is the perception being made. Some of the most successful defenses deploy a base 3-4. And everything is very scheme fluid these days with how safety, nickel and LB roles have evolved over time. I agree, it takes time, but we simply grabbed the wrong personnel. It's not the 3-4, it's that we're playing a scheme without suitable LBs for deployment. We don't get good enough edge setting at OLB and don't have the smart & alert ILB play. Compare to what Evero learned in. That had Willis/Bowman...we had a guy in Jewell who knew how to do it and pretty well, not from Evero but straight from Vic. The best we could find was Rozeboom and are trying to develop Trevin (threw him in with the wolves) which is not ideal. Meanwhile, the vets at EDGE do not have the run stopping chops you expect.
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The Panthers’ Bryce Young Problem is Getting Old
CPF4LIFE replied to Proudiddy's topic in Carolina Panthers
This is why I laugh at the narrative that If stroud and bryce switched teams the texans would be just as good.
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