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Last week he threw a game-losing pick two after a garbage time comeback padded his stats. I wouldn't consider that "playing well".

In Nick Mullens first 5 games as a starter in 2018 he threw for: 262 250 221 414 332 There’s a lot more examples of guys like this. I didn’t look at Jake Browning’s stats last year but he comes to mind as well, along with of course Kyle Allen. Anyone can look good for a few games until the opposing DC gets some tape and starts to actually game plan for whatever attributes stand out on film. Then trash QB reverts back to trash QB and is buried on the bench again.

We draft a lot of TE's

He is averaging 68% completion and 235 pass yards per game in his first 4 start....on a bad team. Yeah, he has better production as a starter than anyone else in his class and no one practically knew who he was going into this season. He is playing....oddly well (given who he is, how bad the Saints are, etc.). And that's our next opponent. In what folks deem a must win game for this weird ride to continue. So, yeah he should be talked about. football is a team sport. football players can play well......on bad teams and the team not win. I doubt the Saints are judging him on wins right now. but here you are in your Bryce Young feelings making it about Bryce. Go start another Bryce Young thread if you don't want to talk about the Saints.

My memory is telling me that was all on Richardson. He loved Jake and wanted to reward him. Or something to that effect

LOL, tell that to the Bryce haters who quote his stats every game. How many yards he throws for, completion percentages, etc. Stats are only a part of the story, there is much more to it.

holy fug that would be 5 guys on the line with deals. Not one on a rookie wage. Is that sustainable, I guess we shall see.

sure you would.........

https://x.com/tacostweets/status/1996586972140208369?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

I saw one site had Cade Mays asking for 12-13 million a year and stating he might get that on the market. I do not see that. Austin Corbett is on a 3 million dollar a year contract. Decisions to be made here might affect how we draft.

I thought he saw the field very well when he played against the panthers in boa. especially on the run.

Kellen Moore is a good quarterback coach. Don't know that he's a good head coach but the ability to coach QBs is a valuable commodity in this league. Arguably the biggest there is...

Regardlessly? Come on, dude

He excels with scripted plays and why the first drive often leads to a score and teams practice the 2 minute offense all the time.

Some are still trying... With an 800 horsepower engine attached... John Elway made a career out of that.

I'll be surprised if Simpson falls that low. I think teams will like how quick he gets rid of the ball. There are enough QB desperate teams in the top 12 between Cleveland, Raiders, Jets, possibly Rams (Stafford is up there in age), and possibly the Vikings if they think JJ is Jamarcus Russell 2.0

Maybe Bryce is playing the long con where he intentionally looks like ass 3/4 of the game and then when teams expect him to continue to be bad, he actually plays halfway decent and manages to lead the 4th Q comeback drive TD

Anyone who says Bryce is this or isn't this is just basically pulling it out of their ass at this point. No one knows whether Bryce is the man or if Bryce is a total washout. I don't know it, you don't know it. Canales doesn't know it. Heck, even Bryce doesn't know it. He's either learning his game or he's just getting lucky. He's either putting the team on his back for wins or he's causing the losses and deficits all on his own. The only thing that Bryce is, at this point in his career, is a quandary. We'll have to just keep watching to see how it turns out. At least it's interesting in December for the Panthers for once in a long, long while.

As of this moment the Panthers are basically a seesaw. Let's win out the season and go from there.

Bruce Arians said when evaluating a college prospect they have to win on 3rd down and in the 2 min drill to be successful in the nfl.

We took Luke when we had Jon Beason, and a hurt Jonathon Brooks when we had Chuba. Just noting. I don't think teams are going to pass up on an impact player regardlessly if whether they need something else. There's a good argument that drafting an inferior player, and especially an obviously inferior player, based upon need is a pathway to failure. I'm glad we took Tetairoa McMillan even though there were arguably bigger needs.

As much as I'd love Cam or Mahomes I'd also settle for a QB that is at least better than average at something other than 4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives. He's literally bottom third in the league in most categories (yards, completion percentage, int percentage/turnovers, YPA, IAYPA, QBR and QB rating) and right around average in a couple others, notably TD % where he is 15th and YAC/PA where he is 9th. If Bryce can improve I'll be happy with him. But all this stuff about us asking for perfection / insane ability is a bit ridiculous. Most of us "haters" just see a QB that is basically below average over his career to date and has shown relatively little consistency in his third year. NFL offenses don't need 400 yards every week at all, but they do require a QB that can move the ball, and Bryce struggles often with that (hence why our overall offensive rank is so bad despite an overall good rushing rank).

Say what you want about Bryce and I’m still pretty doubtful but no one can argue against the fact he’s actually improved quite drastically since year one. Rams game would’ve been a Blowout in 23

Thanks I will root for the Lions to Win

I think we need Cowboys to lose, as they're closest to a wildcard situation that would impact us