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Yeah I always viewed him as a guy who would be a quality enough complimentary piece at LB. Don't think he was some top-LB but was good enough to hold the defensive locker room together and serve his role well. Funny enough, I think the young version of him in the league right now is the guy the Bills are hoping he helps develop in Dorian Williams who had a decent 2024. A B who would have more A moments than C moments, but was never sub-C.

they ran it one time sunday!

yeah, a corgi because he was always injured because of his bilateral hip dysplasia (shaq was fine)

Stinky, I can still smell Arizona in my nostrils

Shaq was an okay LB and a good leader as the years went on. He just got drafted right when Gettleman had begun to dismantle a Super Bowl roster. He never really got the chance to experience a non rookie season with that core beyond 2018 and that was the season that slammed the door shut. After that we already know how the story goes and it isn't pretty.

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Nah that's too high. As of right now his career yards per pass attempt sits at 5.8. Which is the same as Joey Harrington who is 215 out of 215 all time in yards per pass attempt. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_per_att_career.htm

I mean 30 years and ZERO back to back winning seasons. The fan base has a right to be mad. It's also no surprise the fan base hasn't been built up with that in mind.

Ian Thomas

He is hit or miss like everyone else but I will say he was super high on Coker. Can't wait to get him back.

Smitty talking about the Lake Norman bitches.... they have money...bought tickets and gone before halftime....to boat...or whatever on a Sunday.... average fan aint that in CLT.

nicholas michael scott

Stroud with our o line, run game, Tet and Canales able to fully use the playbook we are 2-0 right now. Texans are still 0-2 with Bryce.

Totally fair, I was just pointing out that since the 1992 season, if you say Hurts is still a HOF TBD, there have only been 4 SB winning QB's who aren't already in the HOF or HOF locks. Which in itself is just a crazy thing to look at and is proof that you can't just win a SB with a great roster, you really do need an elite QB.

I know we are all sick if losing and that magnifies everything. I think fans in general have a very "how did we look last game" mentality. It's only been just over a year for Canales and XL but it seems like the hope of turning the corner from the way last season ended has only pissed fans off even more since we've had so many issues to start the year. It's hard to have patience because fans are in year 6 or 7 of sucking while Canales and XL have only just started. The shine wore off super fast. That being said Smith like to hear himself talk and his mouth moves faster than his brain.

Every QB makes the pro bowl when you subtract their turnovers, bad throws, and shitty decisions.

The ceiling for Bryce is Alex Smith.

Thank you. I'll leave you with this. “Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.”

I think we are looking at the same stats, I think you just have pro-Bryce goggles on. That seems to be pretty clear by the post history, anyway. Not really sure how or why anyone would still be in that camp, but carry on.

I would argue their play during their respective seasons was elite, and they elevated those around them. Regardless of what they became after that moment.

Right team, wrong year and player. Since the 2003 season, there are only 2 SB winning QB's who won't end up in the HOF (Hurts not included as I think that's still up in the air), would be Flacco and Foles. The next worst QB to win in that time frame would be Eli, followed by Wilson, and then Big Ben. The other SB winning QB's since then... Brady, Mahomes, Stafford, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees... basically some of the best to ever play the game and Stafford, a surefire HOFer after winning his SB. You have to go back to the 2002 season to find a truly average QB to have won the SB with Brad Johnson and then 2 years before that with Dilfer. Before that, you have to go all the way back to the 1991 season when the Redskins won, everyone else between there are HOFers.

We must be looking at different stats lol

At least the 2025 draft picks seem to have some promise 2024...