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I honestly don’t think he ever will change. He couldn’t punch his way out of this wet paper bag he created with scissors in his hands. I think back to the early takes on Jimmy Haslem, the Browns owner. For that first few years, he couldn’t get out of his own way. Same poo. The fans were miserable and were worried he was exactly who David Tepper is now… and then Haslem took a step back. He hired football guys and let them make the decisions. And something clicked… now, they’ve done some really dumbass stuff since, but they started drafting some gems, developing them, and even went to the playoffs a few years. Led by Baker, they came damn close for beating the Chiefs in the playoffs. But I could never see Tepper doing any of that. He is so damn egotistical and stubborn. Haslem wasn’t pulling up to restaurants and demanding people change critical signs of him. Haslem wasn’t throwing drinks on the poors heckling him. Haslem wasn’t getting in broadcasts with his poo eating grin and calling fans basement dwellers. He was willing to take a step back and learn. At minimum, Tepper should’ve been at that stage two or three years in. And then he forces the Bryce pick. And then he makes us see it through for a minimum of three years. It’s clear he still thinks he knows more than anyone else… and for that reason, this will not turn around under Tepper. Our only hope is he sells, and he won’t. He would move the team before he had to sell it just to stick it to this fanbase for telling him about himself. He’s a fuging douche. And sadly, because all of the decisions have been and will be so bad from too top to bottom, we won’t ever even accidentally back into the playoffs because we will never have the talent or coaching. It is fuging groundhogs day for misery as a Panthers fan.

"We need some dogs" said the man with the school counselor coach and devout therapist son QB

We’ve been having a bad day since 2018. It’s time to bring the paper bags out.

Ngl, until last year, I had missed maybe 1 game my entire life, and that was for my best friend’s wedding. Then last year, I missed almost every game. Was going through a contentious divorce and working, so watching us expectedly suck wasn’t high on my list of things to do. So I didn’t see a lot of XL. I know what he physically looks like. I’ve watched him workout/prepare for the season. I’ve seen clips and highlights of what he’s done. And I know his measureables and strengths and weaknesses based off scouting reports. Respectfully, I think he is already more of a player than TMJ or Mingo ever could have conceivably been, and he already outproduced them as a rookie. For that reason alone, I’ve been hopeful. But in watching him even briefly so far, I can see why he frustrates many. I still think he can develop into something like a DK or Deebo. I just don’t think he is in a situation that is conducive to him becoming that. But, I’m also not selling the farm in belief he will become that here or anywhere else. As you said, we have a long history of reaching and just making bad picks under Tepper. It’s possible XL is yet another product of that. I just think giving him another year will tell us more… still gonna be tough to evaluate until we have a real QB regardless.

And they'll probably beat us

That team will win five games this year.. And they beat us by 16. Damn we suck

What a overrated clown.

I hate losing week 1, but not gonna overreact just yet. We had a ton of lapses and the tempo of the offense was way off. We need to look good vs Arizona

He looks hurt tbh couple jags fans told me he’s never looked the same since the Texans injury

Yall remember when the Broncos were laughing at us when we didn't change a thing coming out of halftime? lol

Easy answer when what we can, and did do, is nothing.

Homeboy didn’t look great at all. Not an issue

I think Richardson could succeed but the Colts tried the Allen method without realizing that Richardson was even less advanced than Allen was coming out. They should have gone the Green Bay method. If they did, he may be ready to play by now. it all comes down to player development. I don’t know that he will ever truly develop but if he doesn’t, he would make a great tight end.

Well then you should have won by more than 16 points, Trevor.

We are going to see increasingly more Anthony Richardsons. Teams will reach on guys with physical tools but they don't seem to have the first clue about how to develop them as QBs. Or what their weaknesses are as players that prevent them from being great NFL QBs. Its just a lottery. Get out there and get killed so we can draft the next guy.

Well, an absolute indictment on the catastrophe that is this team. Not a stunning endorsement of Carolina being anything but an afterthought from here on out. Trevor Lawrence effectively says the obvious: it's not that hard to prepare for Carolina.

Anthony Richardson is the closest thing to Josh Allen as you could get, if he could get the right staff. He played 12 games in college, he should have sat for three years before ever starting in the NFL, period. I’d be fine trading for him if it was for a late round pick. Sign a bridge QB, let him stew, hiring some offensive people from the Bills who knows how Josh’s development took place. that said, Josh is one of one period. He’s a good human being, great teammate, great leader, intelligent, big, fast, physical, and he can throw a ball 65 yards on a rope. It really is crazy considering how he looked coming out of Wyoming. The crazy thing is that most every player you see in the NFL, the Panthers have had the ability to draft at one time or another. No one to blame for sucking other than Tepper, in my opinion. This has been the worst stretch in franchise history and it began with him.

Nah, we are where we have always been since 2019 Ice skating up hill, with no hope of things changing Speaking of ice skating, Is it hockey season yet ?, the Canes don't dissapoint me untill the playoffs

Did Princely or Scourton even play in this game?

A lot of yall dont watch ball for real. This game was not on Bryce. When was the last time a QB looked pro bowl status in a Panthers uniform?

I think its a bit reductive to say its about coachability. A new class of freaks enters the NFL every year and we do not have 1 Josh Allen per year to show from it. Far from it really. The reality is that Josh Allen is 1 of 1, and bad teams will continue to spend countless resources flailing at high ceiling project QBs in the first round. Saying its about coachability makes it sound like the QB development problem is solved. When the reality is, if you could reproduce Josh Allen, then Josh Allen would have no value. But the opposite is true. He's probably the MVP.

The worst owner of all time(football wise) fell for it

He did, but there were EARLY glimpses. Hell, his FIRST game starting he went for 245 yds 1 TD and 32 rushing yards. That would be a GOOD day for Bryce. The eye test showed he belonged, he just wasn't consistent.

lol josh allen looked pretty bad there for a while

He’s the best QB in the NFL right now. I’ve been saying that going back to the end of 2023. He has done more with less. Give him what the Ravens have and I think he’s got multiple Super Bowls at this point. I know Ravens fans and other people thought Lamar deserved the MVP last year but Allen, and really their last two match-ups, showed why Allen won it. I don’t know if the Bills have the team to win a Super Bowl but they are good, and that’s because of Allen. Watching them makes me realize the Panthers will never compete so long as Young is the starter. He just doesn’t have “it”. Maybe it’s a bit unrealistic to compare but Allen’s arm strength is pretty demoralizing. He threw for 251 yards, in the 4th quarter. Bryce has thrown for 251 yards once or twice?