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What? Baker has had more success with the Bucs than the Browns. He has been statistically better than Mahomes since getting there

Yeah, Dalton is a washed and aging QB collecting checks. Bryce on the year, wasn’t really that much better. we saw the base line for Dalton. We saw the bad Skins game. If he played more we would saw the law of averages good game or so added in for Dalton too. End of the day, BY doesn’t have the tools you want for a NFL QB. Simple as that. Everyone largely knows it. We all know the most likely ending because of it at this point IMO. I have or had way more patience for college kids. I don’t care to try to wish a nice kid into something good at the NFL level.

So why couldn’t Chark or Hurst get open with Herbert? Why couldn’t Mingo get open with Dak? I don’t know why I’m even arguing with someone who doesn’t think Reich was a bad coach, I need to get out more.

Darnold is still the same QB and has now officially bounced around the league. Baker Mayfield had much more success both in college and with the Browns albeit short lived there. Baker got a heaping portion of humble pie from that and his disaster of a time here. You don't see him hocking anymore cheesy t-shirts with his mug on them like he did here do you? And as much as he's turned things around we've still seen glimpses of the same old Baker. He was abysmal against us in Charlotte last year. Sooner or later he's going to hit another rough patch.

Just let the rants go. Their minds were made up the night we drafted Bryce and they will do anything to be right. The fact we were a QB graveyard for guys who went on to be pro bowlers elsewhere much be a coincidence. Totally must just be Bryce.

Part of the reason no one wasn’t getting open is because of BY. That’s generally gets omitted. His part in the why. if you don’t have to respect different areas of the field and throws….you get to cheat coverage on plays and routes as a defense/defender. Getting open gets much harder. and I referenced it earlier, best offensive day of that season was the one game Young didn’t play and washed up Dalton took the field it’s always everyone else. Frank Reich tried all he could. But Frank is a generic NFL HC. And he is not a bad HC. BY doesn’t do the basics at a high enough level because of his tools….not just lack of experience. So if things aren’t great, it will go bad with BY. And if the table ever gets set for REALLY good….you likely won’t see that either with BY. only Bryce is going to change my opinion at this stage. Not his believers

People seem to quickly forget how bad Baker and Darnold looked here before looking much better a year or two (for Sam) later. Easy train of thought is to simply blame the QB, but we have to keep building this roster back up if we want any QB to succeed here.

This thread went to poo. CRA angry a Clemson player might get a few less targets.

And this year Bryce looked better than this year’s Dalton with a greater sample size. So again this just tells me Reich let his vet QB air it out against a depleted Seattle secondary. It was still far from a great offensive showdown by a QB that some on here wanted it to be. Again a lot of those posters are now claiming Dalton is washed. So from a one game offensive showing to washed one season later. Let’s you know how reactionary us fans are. I’m not overly concerned either way. Obviously I’m cheering for him to play well as it is what’s best for this team. I swear some rather be right than have this happen. However if he doesn’t we just draft another one. I’m not as attached to him currently as I was Cam. Probably the Auburn fan in me.

I never thought for a second we would trade for Hendrikson. It made no sense. But I dont put much credence in the Twitter rumor mill.

What is the acceptable floor for a rookie QB with 6th & 7th string starting guards, a group of weapons where the only player getting open is 33yrs old, and the coaching staff switched the offense up three times in their first year?

Good they are working things out. Panthers gotta be saved from themselves.

Thank God. Afraid we would have done something dumb

Sounds like the Bengals and Hendrickson are on the verge of working out an extension.

This is why you always have to be developing a tackle and a G/C. BC may not grade out as high as TM but he's also not 22M AAV.

He can't take Dalton's spot. Dalton was a Pro Bowl QB, Perkins will never be more than a 3rd string/PS QB. This is the disconnect I am talking about. IDK what is wrong with our fans.

Yep, makes sense. I mean, we’ve gone to as many playoff games as they have lately, right? I know people want to gloss over our badness in recent preseasons but you are missing how bad we’ve looked. We are 32nd in preseason scoring with 23 points and that’s including many teams that have only played 2 games. Washington is the only other team that has played 3 games and has under 40 points. They have 38 points or about 65% more than us. Our offense, 1st through 3rd string has been awful.

6 pass attempts 5 sacks. Damn.

Falcons QB Ben DiNucci RB Elijah Dotson WR Jesse Matthews WR Quincy Skinner Jr. TE Nikola Kalinic OL Matthew Cindric DL Morgan Fox Edge Ronnie Perkins LB Caleb Johnson LB Nick Kubitz CB Lamar Jackson S Josh Thompson Jets WR Dymere Miller WR Ontaria Wilson TE Neal Johnson OT Samuel Jackson DL Fatorma Mulbah DT Phidarian Mathis DB Ryan Cooper Jr. DB Mario Goodrich

All that hype around Shedeur sure faded fast as he took sacks on nearly half his drop backs against the Rams. That sure doesn't speak highly of us.

Time to run a new defense... 5-0-6 5 down linemen, 6 DBs

For some reason they think all the names they have been drafting will finally pay off. Pitts, London, Robinson

You'd have to run a west coast offense, have a really good rb and slot wr. Roll BY out and put him on the edges out of play action / rpos with a lot of wrinkles to hide intentions

What are the odds we can tell the Vikings "the packers offered us a 3rd, send us a 3rd or he is going to GB" and they actually buy it...