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lol @ bumping this thread thinking it's some kind of gotcha. Nobody ever doubted Darnold's physical abilities as a passer. Legitimately that throw that Sam Darnold made at the end of the game against the Vikings to Ian Thomas of all people is better than any throw Bryce Young has made in his career so far.

Money continuing to pour in on Denver. Line shifted from +5.5 to +3.5 in about 10 hours.

I think its imperative to bring in another vet and draft someone 3/4/5 round range, depends who falls and from Morgans comments it appears they will

That's not a generality, that's this draft in particular. I would like to draft a second or third round center, I just feel this isn't the one to do it. Mayes was 5th rounder and some are acting like he's too valuable to lose. We have two 5th rounders this daft, take one there if the right guy is available. Edge, LB,S, CB, WR(S) are much bigger concerns with the talent in this draft to fill an immediate need.

We need to add a solid veteran pass rusher and we definitely need to bring in a better backup QB. I want someone who can come in and bury Bryce if he gets benched or misses a game or two again.

This has been the attitude that's given us horrible centers since Kalil injured his neck. This is not a good center class to draft one high, but having the attitude that anyone will do calling all the protections for the line has proven to be the wrong approach for years.

Darnold and Mayfield have the ability to drive the ball down the field. Teddy and Bryce don't.

I am of the mindset that our needs that would cost $20m+ should be addressed in the draft. (OT, Edge, WR, maybe C depth) The others (LB, S and maybe C could be free agents.) I am not of the mindset that DL is a huge need--but I need to look at it more carefully.

Ok I’m not bringing this thread up to dump on anyone in particular, just thought it was interesting. There have been issues pushing the ball downfield for so many years spanning Bridgewater, Mayfield, Darnold, Young, etc. as well as multiple coaches. We seem to finally be heading in a more balanced direction, but I think the QBs have proven at this point that they weren’t the problem, or at least the biggest reason.

That doesn’t change, ever. You don’t get smarter IQ wise, you just don’t. It was a stupid, risky pick and he was old and only had one good year. You don’t take that risk when you have stud Cs and CBs just sitting there. Then again we decided a RB coming off a late ACL was worth a 2nd the year before a huge RB draft class. XL is turning 25 this year, if he’s not smart enough, what does another year buy you? Just the playoff run with a healthy Coker and TMac’s rookie year were enough to show that XL isn’t in the same ballpark as those 2.

I consider OL DL/pass rush and LB the big 3. Just me. I am not saying the others are not important. If we sign a WR or Safety I’m not complaining that we should be looking to fix LB etc… instead. I suspect the FO is looking for upgrades all over it’s just finding something that fits the price u want to pay/should pay.

Bingo

I wish Adam Silver would just move this team to Seattle so I could stop giving a poo.

Feel's relevant today

Projected 2025/2026 Free Agent Costs by Position (AAV) Quarterback (QB): Top starters $40M–$50M+ per year (e.g., Kirk Cousins 4-yr, $180M in 2024). High-end backups/bridge QBs often get 2-year deals worth $10M–$15M+. Edge Defender (ED): Top tier $20M–$25M+ per year (e.g., J. Greenard 4-yr, $76M; D. Hunter 2-yr, $49M in 2024). Interior Defensive Line (IDL): Elite DTs command $20M–$27M+ (e.g., Christian Wilkins 4-yr, $110M; B.J. Hill 2-yr, $20.5M projected). Wide Receiver (WR): Elite/WR1s $20M–$25M+ (e.g., Calvin Ridley 4-yr, $92M). Mid-tier WRs often command $10M–$15M. Offensive Tackle (OT/LT): Top starters $15M–$20M+ (e.g., J. Williams 2-yr, $30M). Reliable veteran starters can range from $2M–$10M+. Cornerback (CB): Top tier $15M–$18M+ (e.g., C. Davis/C. Ward 3-yr, $54M; Z. McCollum 3-yr, $48M). Guard (G): Top interior linemen $15M–$20M+ (e.g., Robert Hunt 5-yr, $100M). Safety (S): Top tier $12M–$16M+ (e.g., Xavier McKinney 4-yr, $67M; T. Moehrig 3-yr, $51M). Linebacker (LB): Top-tier off-ball LBs $10M–$17M+ (e.g., Bryce Huff 3-yr, $51M; Patrick Queen 3-yr, $41M). Running Back (RB): Top tier $8M–$12M+ (e.g., Josh Jacobs 4-yr, $48M; S. Barkley 3-yr, $37.75M). Tight End (TE): Top tier $10M–$15M, shallow market often makes veteran value options around $2M–$5M. Special Teams (K/P/LS): Generally under $5M per year (Kickers/Punters $2M–$4M; Long Snappers often at minimum or slightly above). Top 2026 Roster Needs & Priorities: EDGE/Outside Linebacker (OLB): Improving the pass rush is the top priority, as the team ranked in the bottom tier for sacks, with D.J. Wonnum heading to free agency. Inside Linebacker: With Wallace disappointing and Rozeboom possibly on the way out, the Panthers ILBs have been rated in the low 50s on PFF. They need a quality man in the middle. Defensive Line (Interior): Support for Derrick Brown is needed to improve interior pass rush, with needs for more consistent production beyond A'Shawn Robinson and a recovering Nick Wharton. Offensive Line (LT/C): The team needs a potential starter at left tackle and a long-term solution at center, with Cade Mays and others facing free agency. Wide Receiver: Adding explosive weapons to complement the passing game is a priority. Safety: Upgrading the secondary with better coverage skills to support Tre'von Moehrig and Lathan Ransom. Considering that you can afford one to three free agents, and considering that you can reasonably expect 2-3 draft picks to contribute immediately, how would you attack the roster needs? (Lets see how this goes--)

Correct but it also won't include special teams

From Hurney 2.0 through Morgan has been an OL drafting fiasco. Morgan’s first draft alone saw us take Legette/Brooks instead with Zack Frazier just waiting but he kind of learned under Fitterer when we took TMJ over Humphrey and later in that draft took a long snapper over Trey Smith. For good knows why, we’ve been taking risky bad value day 2 picks when IOL and LB picks on day 2 are great value picks because the top prospects at those positions don’t usually go day 1.

If you do FanDuel each defense to score a TD is +500000

He throws two picks weather its the good or bad one lol

Having to watch Denver and New England play is the most disgusting thing ever. Sine Chapel Bill is now spreading his taint around Orange County, I will probably hope the Patriots win. I despise weasel face Payton so much it’s not healthy so it would warm my heart to watch him lose. I think Seattle is rolling right now and are unstoppable. They will definitely beat the Rams, probably easily.

Funny because he didn't get the first here or on the following play he fumbled.

Dude not sure were your getting this but he and Brown are the only two who don't get mauled, as soon as he went to NT our run D improved dramatically.

I want one of the big free agent pass rushers and would love QB as well but the panthers are dead set on mediocre qbs However MLB is the biggest need for sure.

Here is what I'm rolling with today.

We are of a similar thought process today bud. I crushed yesterday