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I'd be open to trading Chuba but not for pennies on the dollar. The max we'd be offered is like a 4th or a 5th and that's not enough especially with the dead cap we'd have to eat if we did trade him. Chuba ran for 1200 yards last year and has been solid the years before that and I don't think we should just give him away for nothing. Now if a team like the Pats come forward with a real offer, I'd be open to listening.

In fairness, the 2025 QB class has looked like absolute ass.

It's not a massive investment so "beyond stupid" is hyperbolic. It's just generally unnecessary. At this point, the results have been basically very similar. He can elevate his game to moderate game manager levels at his peak and mostly he is a significantly below average NFL QB. He is essentially an upper half NFL backup QB at the moment. It's possible he develops eventually. I will never say it's IMPOSSIBLE for that to happen but does anyone honestly think that is likely? If so, based on what aspects of his 2.5 year career so far? Why does his gameplay look so similar to 2023 when the investments in the offense have been so immense?

We do not need to see more. Bryce’s ceiling has been reached. He isn’t going to become a franchise QB. Giving him his fifth year would be beyond stupid at this point.

I think we need to see more but a 5th year option gives you more time to evaluate and also gives team leverage in negotiations if his performance drastically improves.

Yes. That's what you buy on a discount in free agency while the team keeps swinging in the draft and not spend multiple 1st, a starter and more on. Also it's year 3 so I have no idea what people are hoping a surge of improvement comes from at this point. It's not coming physically. Maybe he sits and fixes his mechanics after his stint here? Seems like a stretch given why they are the way they are but that's the only route I can guess and even then it's hitting jag QB levels. The only way he can bust harder at this point is by the team taking his 5th option and dragging out another 2 years of this crap and still go no where with it.

I was advocating an older vet seeing as we already have a distressed asset as our QB1.

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Let’s say Bryce ends up being a decent game manager. Which he hasn’t proven to be yet. He’s still a bust considering being 1 overall and what was given up to get him.

Foreman isn't a great example since he fell off a cliff after the 1 year with the panthers and is playing for no one this year at age 29. He was great for us but if anything this is a good example of why you try to get anything for dowdle

The Bus Stop is now 7th in the league with a 2.25 GAA and 12th with a .916 sv% ...and he's done all that behind a 50% AHL defense!

White already beat out Hooker? Jesus that dude must be horrible in practice

Good orgs don’t care about collecting day 3 picks. Good teams let guys walk in FA all the time.

What excuses. Everyone said Dalton was ass. Even if he broke his thumb he was still ass and should have been replaced last offseason.

Hmm, good bit of cherry-picking from the "don't cherry-pick" crowd. Wild seeing how bad Dalton was Sunday and he gets excuses made for fake injuries.

Fair enough - if the mindset is winning absolutely. They’re a tad confusing though. I think we’re fine holding right now unless a good deal comes in from let’s say a NE Given the pattern, I’m convinced Cuba stays, we pay Rico but then Brooks looks legit in 26. The potential lesson being - stop paying RBs

No I understand it from that perspective, but if you’re trying to win, you keep him and play him. While trading him if you don’t plan on paying him makes sense, we also chose to not keep Foreman after an amazing run to close that year out and it took us this long to find a similarly explosive RB that fits our offense. And while I appreciate all Chuba has done, we ultimately chose to pay him for being a good guy, and then got better production out of Rico on a one year deal. if we chose to pay him, it would likely not be anything near what Chuba got. So, my opinion is, if you’re trying to win, you trade Chuba, and ultimately whatever you give Rico likely fills the salary slot Chuba’s number was already occupying, and we get more production while also opening up more carries for our future back in Etienne.

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It makes sense. i don’t see why people don’t get it. Dowdle will be 28 after his simple 1 year contract with this lousy org. So you want to sign him and overallocate our RB room for a guy we’ve only seen a 1/2 Matt Moore sample size from? Everyone just needs to take a beat. If we’re not paying him then absolutely listen to calls. Every player has a price. This team has no untouchables outside of McMillan and Brown.

Literally the only reason the knives aren't completely out is because so much of the media were wrong. They all convinced themselves Bryce was going to be a great NFL QB and that's how they sold him. They've been doubling down ever since.

How great would it be for The Bus Stop to send Florida home from the playoffs after they basically cut him this year?!?

I’ll never understand why Bryce is being guarded from being judged without guardrails. A good player should just be able to put his product out there and stand tall with his dick in tact. Jake did it in his prime, Cam for most of his career. It’s not that f*cking difficult. This kid is such a Z