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Can I just say that with all we've been through the last several years and how weak the division is now compared to how tough it was back then it disgusts me that we have to say nice things about Drew f*cking Brees because people try to use him to draw outrageous correlations to Bryce Young.

Even though he’s got three inches on Bryce he’s the closest good qb to him height wise (not frame, Bryce is closer to Pat White overall) so Bryce dead Enders just type out whatever and expect people to not remember what they saw with their own two eyes.

JC not this ish again. Brees: 80,000 career passing yards 5 seasons of 5,000+ yards 10 seasons of 30+ TD passes Career completion percentage of 67.7% 37 games where he threw 4 TDs. Best WRs were Colston, Thomas, Cooks, Lance Moore and TE Jimmy Graham/ Shockey. The only first rounder was Shockey (and Bush but he was a RB). Thomas was a stud... drafted with the 47th pick. That was the highest picked WR he threw to. 47th. Graham was a stud. Shockey was a stud. The rest of the receivers would have been jags on most other teams. Brees never had a first round WR to throw to. Colston never even made a pro bowl. Oh, and no spygate to benefit from. Prime Brees was UNBEATABLE in the dome. A bad day for Brees was 2 TDs. He was a 4d chess grand master. Brees has a wallet that probably says bad mf’er. Bryce has a goofy ass backpack. Listen, Drew Brees put up unreal numbers throwing to mostly jags in an era that highlighted running the ball, the receivers could get mugged and QBs got lit the f up on the regular without penalty. Hell, they went so far as to make a tv segment (jacked up!!!) to applaud the violence of the game. He never even had a first round WR. Brees was a better QB than Peyton Manning. There, I said it. Bro is on the short list for best QB ever. This is facts with some of my own personal opinion mixed in, but mostly facts. Those who keep pushing this narrative, did y’all actually watch Brees play? His game is in no way similar to Bryce’s. Brees on this team is a deep playoff contender and Tet would look like prime megatron. Im sorry y’all, I know I sound like a complete homer, but when I hear hyperbole that is insultingly obtuse, it gets under my skin.

No, surely not. He's at least 4-9 if not 5-0!

That's cool but he should really get some help with producing these. The content is good. But it's like he's filming a 90's CRT computer monitor with his cell phone camera inside of his bathroom.

Did I miss something or in opening lineup announcements at this past Sunday's game, did they have us showing a 4-3 (really a 4-2-5) alignment as our base set? It also seemed like we moved to that for much of the game, but maybe I wasn't seeing what I thought I was. I've been hoping we'd leave behind the 3-4 defense for years now as it just doesn't match the team or pair up well against the builds of the opposing teams in the NFCSouth.

What a difference maker! He is the main reason our defense is vastly improved this year. Best DT in the NFL right now

The fact that you think I have an agenda on something so silly is ridiculous. I am just going to let you have this, because it is clearly important to you. You came here after not being here since May and are claiming it is not your fight to fight? Not everyone is out to get you. If you feel that way, seek some counseling. Have a great day.

Low expectations is a great point to bring up, I’ve seen a lot of people and panthers reporters say beating Miami saves Bryce’s job. If beating a pitiful Miami team is what it takes to save his job, how good is he?

I’m just using him as an example of someone we were reportedly interested in. Also he wasn’t a free agent.

The second leading receiver for the panthers is literally a running back. Like right now in 2025.

Dude you’re talking about the nfl 25 years ago. Brees first full season was 2001. DBs could press for ten yards, defenders could hit qbs, they could land on them, they were allowed to still pursue them if they fell during their rush etc. This little dink and dunk, handoff to WR offense Bryce is in could not exist back then. You’re comparing stats in an era where Bryce literally could not survive. You see how fast Bryce falls apart mentally now? what happens to Bryce the first time Tony siragusa pancakes him two seconds after he throws a check down?

Bryce’s wtf plays are some of the worst things you’ll see on a Sunday. his “wow” plays are like a 20 yard out route against a safety that blew his assignment. the tyranny of low expectations is so damn real

@BlazeCarolina you would know what happened if you clicked here rather than trying to make it about me. If you did then you'd know all that I know. You think me sharing the story details of someone who has followed the stadium rules for 10 years is me being entitled? Your agenda is obvious.

In fairness, early drew brees is similar to early bryce. Watch his highlights from San diego, you'll see a lot of stuff 10-20 yards, not many deep passes, efficient but not elite. It all changed when he got to New Orleans with Sean Payton. Fwiw, I don't think it'll happen and it's because brees was FAR MORE of a fiery competitor than bryce. Brees would talk poo, he'd hype the huddle, and he rallied the guys a d part of that drive helps motivate himself to elevate his game. Bryce is too much of a "oh shucks...well get em next time" guy.

We still don't know what happened. You provide selective context. What was the supposed reasoning for the "mistake"? I was trying to help you understand since you seemed confused and entitled. If it isn't your battle to fight, why are you here fighting it?

I will stand on the Hill that Renfrow is an A route runner.

How the fug can a fan watch their team get stramrolled by good teams for years while beating up on bad teams, their D fall apart because of offensive contracts, their QB get paid while proving he can't elevate the team when it matters, lose their best weapn for the year the week before, their coach fall into a funk after earlier successes and then think they are a good team at 1-3 that couldn't lose to another bad team who was also 1-3? At the height of that build they lost back to back wild card appearances. That's as dumb as bearly beating that team and patting yourself on the back.

Please quote where I was outraged. I simply summarized the people's story since there were some questions about what happened. This has nothing to do with me other than I know those people. You demanding that I for some reason provide a "logical counter" to your nonexistent issue for its removal seems like you care about it. This isn't my battle to fight. But yes, I do care about friends being wronged for no reason. It's all been corrected so /discussion.

Don't forget at the cameraman's head and his o-lineman's head

You are probably right. And let's not wish for a Philip Rivers. All hat and no cattle... all stats and no wins.

Young has to stop throwing passes out of bounds, in the dirt, over heads, and to the other team for that talent to produce. Thats the point.

I only have what was provided in this thread. I was giving you a potential reason since you seemed to be outraged it happened. I assure you, no one cares about this sign situation here as much as you do, bro.