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So what you're saying is when we suck we really suck.

When Chris said: "If Mike Vrabel was brought here to coach this team and Canales was on the Patriots, what just happened to the Panthers would've happened to the Patriots". That's a sobering thought and brings the state of of our franchise and decision makers into perspective. If that's clear to everyone inside and outside of the building, then changes need to be made.... But you can't change ownership

It already has been. You'd be nuking a crater.

I mean I never let someone's opinion bother me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how I see it. So to each his own.

Reich got so screwed over. Brand new staff and a rookie Bryce Young, yet got the shortest leash.

Nuke the whole damn thing. Beyond recognition.

I can see a point where they start dumping contracts for draft picks. If that starts happening a purge is coming.

I really don’t get it. It’s football. Either you can or can’t. It’s that simple. But you’re right, it’s time to ignore the delusional ones.

It's been a steady decline in roster talent from 2017 to 2024. I would argue it was a slight uptick in 2025 but we are talking about 2024 being a literal franchise worst roster.

I think it tells the tale As do the Ws and Ls i hope i am wrong but Canales’ Mr Rogers persona is not working and neither are his play calls who knows, however, he came in as HC with no seeming control of Evero and knowing what Young is and how limiting he would be on the playbook No matter the reason, his team folds and once down by a TD, it is hopeless. If they get punched in the mouth, it is over it does not bode well

There's the catch-22. We win a few meaningless games and end up in that 7-10 draft slot purgatory we seem to always be in. Yes, we get a good player, but just miss out on the elite ones. I know the staff is coaching for their jobs, but it seems to be a vicious cycle that keeps us where we are today.

There is no fixing not good enough. He peaked in school and there were plenty of us yelling about it before the pick and shortly after. He isn't even good enough to be carried consistently. Just own it because it was always the truth.

This^^^^^^^^^

Admitting it has nothing to do with making it better. They still can make it worse even if they admit their past mistakes.

I think its hard to know who is good or not with bryce young at qb. a good qb brings up the play of those around them and a horrendous qb makes everyone suck.

It's both. It's all bad. Or mostly beyond a few players.

Fernando!

That's why I'd bench Bryce sooner rather than later. There are still several weeks until the trade deadline. There's plenty of time to get a good look at Dalton. If he's looking like ass after 2-3 games at that point I think you have to seriously shop around.

Lol i tried, it wouldn't let me, so your post is safe

Safest bets as of now are: 1) Mateer, 2a)Mendoza 2b) Moore 3) Nussmeir 4) Leavitt I am leery as heck about Allar, Sellers, Beck and Klubnik.

No more SC players. Sellers is another AR in the making. Projection alone is a dangerous way to select a pro qb. I will stick to the production on the field and then project that to the nfl.

I'm the wrong guy to ask this since I'm an SC grad so I'd be overjoyed at Sellers......... but he's definitely not an NFL level passer right now. He's got NFL size, NFL arm strength, NFL elusiveness, NFL scrambling, but I would not call him a polished passer who can win from the pocket. But at least he has those NFL traits unlike some guy on this roster.

I agree about him being rattled.

Yes. Stop dicking around make him happy and stay out of the way.

No, it's based on projection at the next level. Sellers definitely has the highest ceiling, but he also has one of the lowest floors.