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It's year 8 of misery bro what do you expect.

Mr Rogers is going to Mr Rogers i find all of this disturbing…from, as HC he is ‘pushing the Dc for younger players to play’ to the same issues getting young in and out of the huddle look at every other team from this weekend and tell me if any of them have these types of problems, several have first or second year coaches and QBs from observer Im putting #5 first and the items in entirety so i dont out my spin on it 5 Canales ‘pushing’ for younger players to play on defense The Panthers’ coaching staff and front office have been echoing the same thoughts all offseason — that developing the young players is a core tenet of their long-term plan. And that was true on offense. Brycen Tremayne, 25, for instance, got more snaps (19) than David Moore (12) at the receiver position Sunday. Second-year tight end JT Sanders took the most snaps at the tight end spot — 61% of all offensive plays. But on defense, that wasn’t necessarily true. Only two second-year players played the bulk of the defensive snaps — linebacker Trevin Wallace (86%) and cornerback Chau Smith-Wade (71%) — whereas rookie outside linebackers Nic Scourton (27%) and Princely Umanmielen (12%) played very little. Moreover: Second-year safety Demani Richardson didn’t play a defensive snap; rookie safety Lathan Ransom played nine defensive snaps and 12 on special teams. When asked about the team’s playing distribution Sunday, the coach responded: “I’m pushing that.” I’d love for all of our young guys to play,” Canales said. Evero, the defensive coordinator, calls the plays on defense and serves as the “head coach of the defense” in many ways. “I really believe that it is so valuable for those guys to be out there. Are they going to be perfect? No. Will every rep that they take be valuable and beneficial for their future? Yes. And so I would love for those guys to get opportunities out there so we can see what we have. And also just knowing that it’s a long season and a lot of people are going to play at different times. It’ll help us going forward.” Canales affirmed that it wasn’t a conversation he’d have to have with Evero. He said it was something the Panthers have to address “collectively as a staff.” 1. Burning the play clock: Canales addresses offensive operational issues The Panthers had two drives that burned over five minutes of game clock on Sunday. One yielded a field goal. The other, a turnover on downs. Some of that could be explained by at-the-line adjustments, a propensity to get Chuba Hubbard and the run game going. But much of that, Canales said, is a combination of not getting the play into quarterback Bryce Young in time and Young also not getting out of the huddle fast enough. In other words: It’s an operational bug — not a feature. “That’s something that we want to get better at,” Canales said, when asked about getting the plays off with only a few seconds left in the play clock. “So we’ll be attacking that this week.” Such an issue “creates more challenges” for the Panthers offense, Canales said. “We have the information we need to get the hot (routes) right,” he said. “To get the protection right. But it’s those critical 5 or 6 seconds — it doesn’t seem like a lot of time, but it’s everything for us to be able to play at the line of scrimmage, get the right looks and execute.” 2. Tackling issues: Explaining the 71-yard run and more The headlining issue of the Panthers’ defense on Sunday was something you’ve heard before: This defense couldn’t stop the run. Carolina gave up 200 rushing yards on Sunday. Most of which arrived via Travis Etienne Jr., who had 143 yards on the day — half of which came on a 71-yard rush in the second quarter. Canales said that the 200-yard game — the seventh consecutive game the Panthers have given up over 200 rushing yards, dating back to last year — was mostly a product of poor tackling. “Coming off the film, the scheme was there; we gotta get guys down,” Canales said. “We had a couple of (tackles for losses) available for us early on in the game. We gotta get the guy to the ground. “The big 70-yarder was really like a free player — we got two guys outside, two guys in the D-gap, and we’re trying to spill that so Tre’von Moehrig can be in position to make that play. They cut us off, so all of a sudden, he’s got a decision to make. Do I jump inside or hop back out? And the ball got popped out there, and Nick Scott had a chance to make that tackle and didn’t get him down.” This issue goes further back than the Canales regime. In 35 games with Ejiro Evero as the team’s defensive coordinator, the Panthers have given up 120 rushing yards or more 26 times. 3. Reliving that fourth-and-1 play call The play that caused the most hand-wringing and head-scratching on Sunday was arguably the most consequential one of the game: on the Panthers’ first drive of the second half, fourth-and-1 on the Jaguars’ 5-yard line. Canales called a play that solicited an empty backfield. The result? A snap that appeared to surprise Young; tight end Ja’Tavion Sanders and receiver Xavier Legette floating to the left; Young throwing the ball to the back pylon where no one was. Turnover on downs. “We had good matchups,” Canales said, echoing what he said Sunday after the game. “We had what we wanted. We just gotta execute it. And that’s kind of what we went back to. Bryce and I had that conversation. He liked the call. We had guys in good matchups, and we just gotta execute.” 4Turk Wharton out for 2-4 weeks, plus other injury news Defensive lineman Turk Wharton — who was making his debut for the Panthers on Sunday — was having a great game before going down in the second quarter with a hamstring injury and not returning. After Wharton’s MRI, Canales said the lineman is going to miss “two to four weeks.” Canales did not know if he’d be moved to the injured reserve Sunday.

It’s year 7 bruh

Not sure about reporters, but fans do that all the time. Hell, if you were to ask some people on here, Cam Newton never had a single bad game in his entire career. Regardless of whether it's Young, Newton, Delhomme, Clausen, Teddy Bridgewater or even Matt Moore, It's never "everybody else's fault" anymore than it's ever all one person's fault. Young's performance this past Sunday was not good enough, but he had plenty of help.

1st pick was a panic we need a WR for Bryce type of pick - they chose the wrong one. 2nd pick was inexcusable because RB was the one position we didn't desperately need I get the Wallace pick - dude has great athleticism for the LB position. Just has zilcho instincts 4th and 5th round picks look good to me Could care less about 6th and 7th round because those are usually special teamers at best caliber players. Plus we got Coker as a UDFA to negate them. Overall probably a bad draft because of the 1st 2 picks + Wallace looking bad (granted, I think Brooks would have been a good RB if he could stay healthy). I do think Dan did a good job in the 2025 draft though.

"on pace" after one game is kinda silly. Derrick Henry is on pace for over 3000 yards rushing and 17 fumbles. doesn't really matter though. Defenses are going to take Tet away and make Renfrow and XL beat them. He'll get tons of garbage time crossing routes for ten yards though. Hopefully he avoids the Bryce young hospital balls.

I hope not.

I’d leave that up to the new hire.

This isn't true. He was the backup in New Orleans the year before, and Carolina was kind of in a bidding war with Dallas for him, which is why he got to camp late.

You think it would be better to swap Bryce’s bad play for a 5th round rookie’s bad play? Really?!

It is week 1. This place needs to calm down a bit.

And I would have Morgan safer than Canales IMO. Outside of the whiff on XL and taking Brooks when we didn't need a RB, I think Dan has drafted pretty well his 2 years in charge as GM. I'm more concerned with the free agent acquisitions that have mostly been busts, but I'm not sure if those were more coach decisions or Morgan decisions. But I honestly think Canales just isn't a good coach and wouldn't have a problem cleaning house (at least HC, OC, DC, GM) at the end of the season. The only problem is no HC and GM worth a crap are coming to this dysfunctional franchise.

Is vinny Testaverde still alive ?

He also threw Renfrow out of another easy TD late in the game. Renfrow should’ve had two easy TDs Sunday, and what a hell of an opening comeback game that would’ve been. The second one almost got HR injured because Bryce threw it over his head and carried him out of bounds where he landed awkwardly. Had he led him upfield, it was a TD. But alas, we have an impostor playing QB.

Barring going 2-15 or worse, I doubt it. I think Evero will be the scapegoat and Morgan/Canales will get 1 more year. I'm sure Tepper will meddle again with which QB we should draft in 2026 and we will likely choose the wrong QB again. Rinse and repeat the 3 years after and we will be back in the same situation in 2029

If this was his first game as a rookie then I would be all for rationalizing this. But it is year 3 and he doesn’t have it. If u had AT he would have had a better game in all likelihood but I think that amounts to putting lipstick on a pig. No matter play out the year and see where you end up which is probably looking for a new QB. Hope I’m wrong but that hope is microscopic at this point.

some of these were legitness

Does that include firing Brandt Tilis? (he just got here)

Pick any of the following: -He can't win with these receivers. He would be elite if he had Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson at WR. -It is all the defense's fault (as we lose the game 20-3) -It's the oline's fault -Bryce would be elite if we still had AT on the team -It was just an off day -All of the above

I've seen enough, clean house. I want the new GM to pick the HC and the HC to pick the QB.

He has had access to exactly such a person (or people) for several years now, but whether he has any inclination to do such a thing is unknown.

big picture went need 2 QBs though this offseason. 100% rebuilt room. We need to find a vet to start and then draft a future QB.

With some people you can at least identify a trend in their mistakes: always too cautious, too reckless, too generous, too stingy, overthinking, impulsive, etc. Sadly, Tepper is one of those people who can make mistakes in every possible manner. (omni-incompetent...or perhaps omnincompetent, if you want to put a word to it) He needs, as he has always needed, someone who actually has a clue making all his decisions for him. There were hints that was going to be Dan Morgan's role now, but is Morgan the right choice for the job? The problem with finding somebody to make good decisions for somebody who consistently makes terrible decisions is that it's still the bad decision maker's decision who he picks to make the good decisions...unless he picks someone else to make that decision, but even then will he make a good decision as to who decides who... Ya know what? I'm tired My Answer: I don't know. At this point I'm.probably just praying for a miracle.

Tepper hires consultants. He just ignores their recommendations because he knows better. The best thing for the team is to let it crash and burn. There's no way to save this season and bring in some street scrub only to win 1 or 2 games max is detrimental to building a better roster. Suck it up buttercup.

I swear to god every time I think of this it makes me want to lisan al gaib BoA stadium