DaveThePanther2008

Corral has some amazing traits or as you say raw talent. We'll see. The new HC will definitely have an input into the QB he wants to work with but No coach, outside of Rhule, is going to be tunnelvisioned to just one QB including his draft choice. I get he'll favor him some but it's not impossible for any QB on the roster to beat him out.

Because he's a QB on our roster and should be competing with whoever we draft and whatever vet we bring in to start.

I would agree with that however, Young and Stroud come from the elite schools in CFB. Ole Miss isn't as recognizable as Bama and OSU. We are drafting a QB so it will be interesting to see how that plays out in the offseason. I would also imagine we are going to sign a veteran to start the season.

You must not have followed preseason. Most would agree that Rhule wasn't going to give Corral a true shot. PJ is on the Panthers only because Rhule wanted him. He's only on the roster because we don't have a QB. Many of the huddlers, including myself, said when Rhule pulled his stunt on Corral, it was going to force us to take a QB in this years draft. I'm not going to get into the argument that our incoming rookie is 100% better than Corral. No one can say one way or the other until we actually see them play. I have no doubt that we are choosing a QB in this draft, but to anoint him the starter just because he was chosen #1. The bust rate for #1 QB is very possible. IMO none of the QBs in this draft are surefire franchise QBs. If there was, this forum would 95% be onboard with one QB.

That's a foolish approach. You have to give Corral an opportunity to compete. No one in here can truly say he's bust. While the rookie may start the offseason as #1 you have to give both the opportunity to show what they can do. I'm not implying whatsoever that Corral is better than any QB in this draft but he should and most likely will get an opportunity to compete for the position. My point is, if he were to win than that #1 pick just went to waste.

So are you saying that the 2023 rookie is the starter no matter what? Thanks to Rhule's we have no true gauge on how Corral can play. I would think that there would be a true competition. We'll have a new offense so neither QB will have an edge.

I agree that we need a backup, but you don't draft a backup with the first choice of the draft.

That's where the bidding begins. With several teams in the mix, IF and BIG IF, we trade him we could get more than 2 firsts.

First, I agree we will probably take a QB in round one as QB has been such a PIA for us the last couple of years. That said, we will have a true QB competition this spring and into training camp. It is going to be a wasted pick if Corral beats him out.

What I really like about Steichen is he seems to adapt very well to what the opposing defense is doing and makes adjustments.

This has been mentioned several times but the only bad thing about a DC minded head coach is that his OC, if he does well, will be snagged in a year or two and we have to start over with a new OC. I'm ready, as most of us are, for an Offensive-Minded Head Coach.

I think Wilks has an uphill climb that I don't believe he'll succeed and retain the positon as HC. I like him and think he'll do a good job holding the team together, but I think Tepper will want Fitterer to find a good offensive minded HC. This is exactly what I think we'll do. We can argue all day on which current OC is the best candidate. The winning candidate, IMO, needs to not only have a good scheme and be creative but also be able to make in-game adjustments and halftime adjustments. I truly cannot think of one OC we've had since Dan Henning that was decent at in-game adjustments. I know many of you hated Henning or have a bad opinion of him. However, after the Cheatriots knew our entire offensive plan in SB38, he made the adjustment and put us back in the game. So, I'll always respect DH as a great offensive mind (for his Era) and what he did to save face for us in SB38. Obviously, the new HC should have an OC that is his protege. So, whoever we bring in as the head coach we'll have to be happy with his OC. I would also want our HC to call the plays since we brought him here because of his offensive skills. Defensive Coordinator should be a young talented DC like Demeco Ryans or maybe someone from the McDermott tree. I know McDermott and Rivera come from the same tree, but McDermott has evolved into a good HC and his defense is elite. Thoughts?

Just for the sake of argument. Say we trade Burns and get 2 first rounders. DJ probably we get a 2nd and Chinn a 2nd. Shaq if we are lucky a 3rd. So, we go into the draft with 3 first, 4 second and 2 third round picks. If we are fortunate enough to hit on all 9 of these picks 2/3 of them will have the two to three year growing pains. You set yourself back a minimum of 2 years. Brown is a classic example. He was a stud coming out of college but took a couple years to finally start reaping the benefits of his skill. Makes no sense at all. Horn, Burns, Brown, Chinn are the core defensive players we must keep. DJ, Icky, Christensen and Moton are our core offensive players that we must keep. You build around these guys with players like Mays and McCall just to name a few. Gutting the whole team is the dumbest thing you can do.

The difference between you and them. They, like me, have had the same name for the entire time. They don't need to change their name just so they can continue to troll like you do.

He's trying to break the record of Fire Rhule threads in one day. This is his 2nd thread on relocation. Tepper has too much invested in his soccer team and bringing other events to BOA to move this team.

I thought Hubbard would be better at checkdowns but the guy has hands of stone and don't expect much. I would like to see us run a more traditional run game with QB under center and handoffs and play action. Not that I expect much.

During the presser I notice Fitterer mentioned Foreman ahead of Hubbard so hopefully it's Foreman.

This is the time for this young man to step up. He did a good job last year with the Titans after Derrick Henry went down. Sadly, I am not too excited about McAdoo but hopefully he can step up.

So many want to say we have a depleted team. I don't agree. We have several good pieces in place and Fitterer made it a point that we will not trade any of our good young talent. We have to nail this first pick and our history shows we are pretty good at getting a good player in the first round. I think if do well with the 4 picks we have in the first 3 rounds we can compete in 2023 for a division title and the playoffs.

So where in this does it imply CMC requested a trade or wanted out. Fitterer said he notified CMC earlier in the week when they started getting calls. Said several teams were testing the waters and later it got more intense. He also said which I find funny you don't acknowledge. He said all CMC was focused on was Tampa. I don't think a player that wants out is going to be focused on the next team. Usually crap like that gets out to the media one way or another. I never saw anything where CMC asked for a trade or implied he wanted out.

The GM is going to select the interviewees. He will conduct the interviews without Tepper. Once all the interviews are done, Fitterer, Morgan and Tepper will sit down and choose the best coach for our future. That's how it works. I don't think there is one owner, outside of Jerry Jones, who doesn't have a seat at the table when making this type of decision. Too many of you want to nitpick things that are said as a shot against the GM. I think Fitterer may have approached Tepper about CMC and informed him that we are getting offers and the best way to rebuild this team is to get a good trade deal for him. In the presser Fitterer said we were close to getting the value of a 1st rounder, which many of you said we should get. Instead of one pick we got 4 good picks. I would have liked to see us get a 3rd in 2024 but am happy with the haul.

You must not be evaluating with the same glasses. Stroud is a product of a good OSU system. He has all the tools but I don't see him using them all the time. I watched some of his videos and one thing that stood out to me was some of his passes just kind of float out to his WIDE OPEN receivers. I've seen him zip passes but I've also seen them float. If he does that in the NFL he'll get a lot of picks. I haven't watched Levis yet so I'll give my POV later. I wouldn't be upset with Young, Stroud or Hooker. All have strong skill sets and all have question marks. IMO none of them are surefire franchise QBs.

QB at 1, not sure it's Stroud. What sucks is we have 6 months of speculation. It's gonna be a long 6 months.

Homers, you mean everyone that disagrees with you. You're not always right and I would bet with the incredible "the sky is falling attitude" you're probably more wrong than right.

I'm not surprised with some of the reaction we've had on this board. Mostly childish ranting and raving because we traded away their man-crush player. CMC was a great player and may very well push SF over the top but to get the value we did was a good move. Don't be surprised if SF unloads Debo Samuel. He wanted a trade before the season and it's possible that they move him and put CMC in his place. Remember Samuel did not want to be a duel threat, he wanted to be more of a WR. While I think this is a good move for SF, it could backfire. CMC, as we all know, hasn't played a full season since 2019. If CMC, Jimmy G or anyone of their players go down for a significant time their SB dream could crash on them. They are 3-3 and in the middle of the pack right now. Many great players have come out of the 2nd and 3rd round. I think we need to calm down and start watching plays that might fall to us in the draft. Our new head coach and Fitterer will be going in the draft with the top pick and 2 2nd round picks. That's almost a guarantee for 3 starters. We'll have replaced one starter with 3. NOT BAD