PappyMay

I don’t think any sane person now thinks Bryce is better than Stroud. But our team is so bad we go from a 2 win team to maybe winning 4-5 with Stroud. Which at this point I’d love to of had this year. Atleast wouldn’t be gifting the bears the first pick. I don’t hate Bryce. I hate Fitts My hope is Bryce can atleast be as good as Tua.

If Hayden Hurst retires from concussions I wonder what salary cap implications that has. Schultz made 6.5this year. I wonder if we bump him up to 9mil a year he’d come here.

CMC and DJ

I agree with everything you said. May have to sign 1-2 free agents but lets get rid of most our dead money and get ready for the future. I just hope to win 5 games next year. Also really want our 2nd and 3rd rounder to be day 1 starters. Need to save money so in 2025 we can make a few sizable offers for that bounce back year!

I'm all on board for Worthy, Egbuka I like too but is a slot guy. If we take him I wonder if we'd try to trade Theilen for a late rounder or use them both. It's hard to know what we want on defense because we dont if it will be a 3-4 or 4-3

Trading down for Harrison has little to do with Moore. Having Harrison Jr and Moore would be a nightmare for defenses. They'll be gaining more assets in the trade down too. Imagine if Barkley or Henry sign a short term deal there. QB and RB both can gut you in the run game and 2 wideouts that go for 1,000yards. Moore is under contract for 2 more years and fully in their plans. It makes me sick to see how little his cap hit will continue to be as the price for wideouts continues to go up.

Didn’t see a Post but was on the team site. Morgan extended LaBryan Ray, Stephen Sullivan, and Nick Thurman all to 1 year deals. The Nick Thurman part needed to happen. The others I’m sure will be part of the roster churn this off season. https://www.panthers.com/news/panthers-extend-three-sign-11-practice-squaders-to-future-deals

People say he’s not a WR #1 because of fantasy football. Like there are only 10-12 WR 1’s in the league. He’s clearly a top 15WR in this league. Not a distraction in the locker room and was at a fair value contract. Sucks he’s not here still.

gets washed away by TE's on run plays.

Safe, I dont know how a team would give up more than a late 2nd for him after this season and for what we paid for him we may aswell let him battle it out in camp with whoever they bring along. I hope he realizes his subpar performance and is off training with Mingo and company all spring. Please bring back Ish Smith Marsette too!

Will he ever be an MVP Or good enough to carry a team by himself. Not at all. But I still haven’t given up that he can be an above average QB. Now is that what you want out of the guy you traded up to? Absolutely not. But already walking away from I wouldn’t do that yet. This was the least talented team in the NFL and that’s on Fitterer more than Bryce as far as our sucking goes.

Will he ever be an MVP Or good enough to carry a team by himself. Not at all. But I still haven’t given up that he can be an above average QB. Now is that what you want out of the guy you traded up to? Absolutely not. But already walking away from I wouldn’t do that yet. This was the least talented team in the NFL and that’s on Fitterer more than Bryce as far as our sucking goes.

That’s more on Icky than Bryce to me. Man has Icky has regressed.

Wasting a top 10 defense with this trash offense. Just hurts to see.

and get what for him after this year? Fitt gave to much up for him to walk away after a single season. Unless there is a whole new regime coming in and Tepper allows them to walk away from his Golden Boy after one year Bryce is our QB for 2024.

If Penix is there at 33, you trade the pick desperate for someone who wants him or grab a day 1 starting Guard or speedy WR to help out Bryce. We need to give Bryce 1 more year. Worst case we are terrible again and go the complete opposite direction and get Shedeur Sanders the next year.

No mass overpays on contracts. Upgrade Oline, Speedster at WR, decent signing or mid round pick at corner incase 2024 is the last year here of Horn/Jackson. Extend Brown and Luvu. I'm just hoping for 5-6 wins next year and to be more competitive. Lets keep all of our assets and get ready to make the jump in 2025.

these contracts are going to go well into the offseason when the new regime comes in. But I care more about keeping Brown than I do Burns. Would love to have both, but if we can get late first for Burns after the tag and trade to build out the roster and extend YGM I dont think we'd really be any worse than we are now. Then you'd have alot more cap to keep building forward.

5-6, we will make some improvements but too many holes and limited resources to fix it all in one offseason.

Too early to tell. Will Icky bump inside? Will we bring back Evero or will the new D coordinator swap back to the 4-3? Xavier Worthy or getting Sweat while trading down 4-5 picks if we keep a 3-4 would be my idle picks. Also if Luvu goes Trotter Jr becomes an option. Also if a top corner is there both Horn and Jackson’s contracts you can walk away from at the end of 2024. We need so much help.

Agreed, we can’t trust him to draft and imagine we’d have to overpay for good talent. Rather not do that. Just hoping for 5-6 wins next year and let’s build for the future. Bryce hasn’t lived up to his pick but all these bad trades and picks that have left us talent depleted is on Fitts

I agree. I’m not hopeful for a playoff spot but if we are just 3-4 starting spots away from being 7-10 type ball club if who we have under contract next year continue to develop. Xavier Worthy of Troy Fautana are my favorite prospects at 33 unless someone drastically falls. Speedster or a starting guard for Bryce’s tenure here. Now just lock but Brown/ Luvu and trade Burns for to a contender for a late first rounder

I would literally tag and trade him for whatever I could get at this point. I'm not sure if we could get much more than a 2nd and 4th. No way a team wants to pay him more than 25mil with what he's put on tape this season.

I think he only had to pay Rhule like $5million because of the Nebraska contract offsetting a majority of the money. And the main reason he was owed anything was the escalating contract for Nebraska the the first couple years was less than what he would have made as the Panther's coach.

Fire Fitts and use your Billions to take Howie Roseman from the Eagles….. a man can dream can’t he?