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Who would you rank as top 5 Panther draft busts of all time?
ColumbusCounty replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Most disappointing 1st rounder I've seen in the last decade here would probably be Vernon Butler..off the top of my head. He played like a 5th-UDFA. Also Everett Brown was pure awful bro. So awful that I almost put Burns in the same category just for coming out of FSU. Horn will be back. He's not a bust, just has an extremely bad streak of injuries. 2 freak injuries and friendly fire. His play when avialable is undoubtable. And I'd like to assume that he's nowhere near thrilled with how his career has gone so far. He does have the pedigree to work his body and mind out of this. He doesn't belong on this list. -
Bro.... u serious ??? Your seriously underestimating how bad that season was. It did net us the #1 pick and Cam...but Clausen was undeniably awful here.
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Will YGM have a Hardy breakout year
ColumbusCounty replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
This!! .... Haynes quietly put together a 5 sack season last season in a rotation. He's also the record holder for the most sacks in Ole Miss history iirc(Hardy's old school) ...if I were a betting man, that's where my money would be for breakout. Similar to Mario Addison. I actually think YGM is fighting for a roster spot at this point. -
Homerism aside, I still gotta say Cam's Auburn season was probably the last time I've seen a qb step in and absolutely dominate with an average to below average supporting cast. Burrow had a nice season but he had NFL ready talent everywhere on the team. We may never see that again in the current era. Iirc, finished college undefeated at Auburn w/ the Heisman trophy and a national championship. Then came to Carolina and later led us to a 15-1 season w/ an MVP designation and a Superbowl appearance. I put Young in the same category (Burrow). To be clear.. I originally wanted Stroud (after watching both players vs Georgia) but Young has grown on me the last few months. I'm expecting alot of tough weeks but the next 3-4 years look extremely optimistic if he can stay protected and he develops anywhere close to his full potential... The only question I have at this point is whether he can deliver the deep ball accurately at this level. Will he have enough time to? ...I'd say his floor is Teddy Bridgewater ...but his ceiling is Brees. But ay, wtf do I know... all opinion
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Lol, I'm just left with questions.. We almost made the playoffs last year bro. With a better staff, QB, and roster + this shitty division ...why shouldn't you expect the playoffs until we're mathematically eliminated. Wth u mean don't expect the playoffs?? Lol cmon bro. U think the guys in the locker room are aligned with your philosophy? And the ones that oppose simply just don't know football? What I know is, you wouldn't have posted this three weeks ago. Don't make what's basically a glorified audition for depth be the end all be all. But let me guess, when Benjamin went down for the season you knew in '15 that we'd go undefeated for most of the season in route to a superbowl appearance? You do know, "Any Given Sunday" is a slogan related to this game?!? It wasn't just a movie title my guy.
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Good point. I don't remember seeing him get a single snap this preseason. Guessing we're trying to stash him on the PS.
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How would you feel if we cut Chuba and signed Hunt?
ColumbusCounty replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Would not be opposed. But I do think Oline help should be a priority as it benefits 4-5 positions at once. We're so locked in on finding Corbett's stand-in at G that God forbid 2 lineman are lost concurrently. We really should have brought back Foreman as he's proven his reliability. Also our line seems to be better at run blocking than pass blocking so a rb with vision and power would be my ideal choice even w/ Sanders on the roster. I'd imagine it's not a fun thing to bring down a 200+ pounder running full speed in the 4th quarter. Esp late in the season as the temp drops. Put Lavisha back there. -
Shenault higher than TMJ ?? ... questionable
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With ST I can tell he has a passion for it but he actually flashed more than a couple of times last season at safety. So much so that I remember switching from "he's only here due to Rhule's nepotism" to "Damn he's starting to push for starter play". I actually forgot about him until I saw that clip. As-is he was starting to put it together. Another offseason like he had last season and he may contribute more than most expect. Although, he's behind on the depth chart I do hear our DC likes to utilize more than a couple safeties sometimes. At worst, him and Jammie Robinson should be pretty entertaining to watch on ST coverage together.
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With 5 spots basically already locked unless we go with 7 (which we just might if the coaching staff is mindful off the past), that final spot is basically between: Damiere Byrd, Shi Smith. I think CJ Saunders, Josh Vann and Marquez Stevenson are damn near already on PS. As far as Marshall, just give the man his snaps and he'll work. Tbh, I'm expecting Derek Brown-ish last season type ascension.
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With Donte and Jaycee being recurring question marks we could easily bring in Marcus Peters, Casey Hayward or even Byrce Callahan and still be somewhat competitive on the back end. Off the street any of those options serve as an immediate upgrade over Keith & CJ. Specifically CJ. It's a reason the staff isn't actively searching for replacements. But I do agree CB is far and away a more pressing need than edge. As long as Burns, Chinn, Shaq and Luvu are on the same field we can manufacture pressure in this scheme.
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I have zero faith in CJ. I did last offseason but watching his effort in that Bucs game change my whole perspective. As for Taylor, I'm still cautiously optimistic that he'll develop into a solid option under this staff. Eric Rowe should come in handy. Jaycee has missed alot of time but when he's out there he's damn near elite at what he does. And I dont think he's injury prone, I think he's had bad luck. 1st injury non-contact that occurred while back peddling iirc and last season took Chinn's helmet to the shoulder/wrist area. On the bright side it's still a couple of quality corners on the market if we need to make a move. I don't think we're going to just yet but ay we got options.
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I forgot Donte's injury was Achilles. And when he returns will his speed be retained??... Might be one of reasons we were supposedly interested in Julian Brent's. And while some of the dudes I stated have potential, they're far from proven commodities. Yea if I'm Fitts, I'm on the phone now. Whatever it takes to not repeat that Bucs game last season.
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If Jaycee or Donte went down, I'm thinking we move Eric Rowe outside and slide somebody like Chinn or Robinson to nickel. If we lost one we could still be competitive but if we lose both we're screwed. Idunno, but I've convinced myself Rejzohn Wright will surpass Henderson and Taylor Jr on the depth chart. We know how bad both of them can be but we don't know improved they might be after a scheme change and legit coaching. NFL Taylor Jr, in particular. He took a serious fall from what I saw from year 1. Henderson has always looked out of his league to me. We don't know what we really have currently...lol hell Rasul Douglas left and made a Pro Bowl... I will say with the skill players in our division CB should be high up on the priority list after the draft. Atleast we have the $$ to grab one if needed.
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Another one falls into the trap that is Sam Darnold
ColumbusCounty replied to NAS's topic in Carolina Panthers
Take away that last game and iirc Sam was damn near top 5-10 in the league QBR wise iirc... He made some throws that made me smdh but he also threw some last season that made my jaw drop. Just that improvement showed me he can further develop (to a certain point). I will say, I would have been happy to have him as a backup under Reich. He's the perfect QB to come in for a 4-5 game stretch if need be (from wat I saw last season). I think he goes to San Fran and lights it up...atleast for a few games. Too many weapons to fail. Shanahan definitely has something in mind for Darnold. I wouldn't bet against it just yet. -
I agree, and in theory you want as many play makers on the field as possible. I'm figuring he'll be 4th-5th on the depth chart at WR w/ maybe 10 snaps a game. Or make him a change of pace back also and give him more opportunity. My gut says this won't happen. BUT the saving grace to the equation is our haul new offensive coaches. And with the attention and acclaim they've been getting since being assembled I'm expecting ALOT of creativity. Atleast alot compared to the Baylor staff.
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I went back and looked at Sanders from Penn State up until now. He's more physical than I previously gave him credit for. He's also more of weapon in the redzone than I imagined. That man has some power with him. I was sleep. Also, he probably signed here under the assumption that we'd use him in our scheme similar to how Philly used him his rookie year. Basically a faster but slighty less shifty version of McCaffrey with less touches. I do think he's better than Foreman after getting up to speed and it's not even close imo. Redzone weapons: TMJ, Chark, Hurst, Mingo Short Yardage: Sanders... and if it doesnt work... throw Shenault or Mingo back there. Hell, line up Cade.
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This guy....for a fifth rounder was a STEAL. 2 years at FSU: 2x All-ACC, 2nd team All American... FSU DPOY. Before transferring to FSU from South Carolina: 2nd Team Freshman All American, Freshman All-SEC Before that dude was the Player of the Year in the state of Georgia. I think his height/weight made him an afterthought but I think we got one with this pick if he stays healthy. Type of player you don't have to worry about motivation with..and he's already signed...I likes..
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Hell yeah you sign that man. Unless he turns into YGM after the alignment switch. Imho, he'll be even better in this new scheme based on his playing style. That's a relentless man ... not only does he push the pocket but he grabbed a pretty athletic INT btw. Not to mention his batted passes and blocked FG's. His best ball is ahead of him.
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I'd get Washington for extra protection for Young... TE with the blocking ability of an OT. Still got Brents at corner, who we're pretty high on. Sanders who we met with... Or BPA... Idunno how you pass on Meyer or Hyatt is they're available. I'm thinking we trade back. That said, Edge is still a need.
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Just from my viewpoint: CJ's not quite comfortable with the nationally televised interviews just yet. But he has a confidence I like in a QB. I think the team would rally behind him. Behind the scenes he seems like the type of teammate you'd want in your locker room. Has that fire in him. With Young, the Bryce you get here is the Bryce you get at all times. Just a calm collected dude. More of a lead by example type...media training not a priority in the least. Seems coachable.. Lol, it's almost like a lesser charismatic Cam vs Wilson personality matchup. Idunno, just give me the one with the most heart and determination. The one that hates to lose. Either way I'll be happy. Wanted Stroud at first but Bryce is growing on me.
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"There was one receiver last week..."
ColumbusCounty replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Charlie Jones Who btw is on my short list of gems that could develop into big time players. While we're at, Wr's also on that list Addison, Rice and Flowers. And also while were at it: This TE class is disturbingly talented. IMO the ceilings for Meyer, Kincaid, Musgrave and LaPorta are extremely high. Really like this draft at WR, TE, Rb, db and edge. ALOT of value in that top 150-200. I imagine we're trading back at some point.