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Delusional... sheesh. I do not claim to be a GM or scout. Yes I am primarily referring to the fact that I've seen him make all the throws that you have to make at this level. Consistently enough? No. Point is, there's only a few QBs in the league that would approach something resembling success in either the Jets or our situation. There are most definitely QBs that have come through the league that never had a chance. Wrong team at the wrong time and all.

Pointless argument really. I'm one of the few left but I still say Sam has starting NFL QB talent. We've seen it at times. Could I be wrong? Yep. I'm sure, however, that there are very few QBs in the league that could transcend how poor this coaching staff is.

Yes it looked brilliant for a few weeks.

Look the NFL is about championships and championships only. Teddy isn't good enough to win one. Thought process- maybe Sam is? Let's try it out. Now we know and it sucks. Sam isn't good enough. Therefore, square one.

Very well said @Seltzer. Creating apathy among the once loyal is a path to permanent failure. The opposing fan situation absolutely must be addressed. As far as the football product, the only thing I'd say is that at least changes were attempted. Unfortunately, those changes didn't work out.

We have a lot of young talent. There are positional gaps. We all know. I enjoy watching our talented young guys play. There's a very good chance we can win this one. F draft position. Let's beat the evil empire.

Ruined a lot of people's lives with a selfish decision. Uber, Lyft, taxi, Limo, private driver were all options.

What would the Bills want for Trubisky?

Yeah I get Sam hasn't been great, but Walker was on the next level of terrible

Most of you need to consider a healthy hobby or interest of some kind.

Solid, reliable player. Nice piece for a contender. No idea what the point of him signing here is.

I think we'll find out if we have any leaders in the locker room. These guys have pride. They are more talented than the Falcons. Let's see what happens.

So one QB preferred Los Angeles and another preferred Miami to... Charlotte. My jimmies are not rustled. Maybe Darnold develops. If not, we draft a QB. Of course it sucks but I'll give the regime another year before ejecting my fandom.

I heard he's been in a weight room. Instant upgrade.

He'd rather be counting his money with Robby.

Hey man. We're all angry. I get it. Not too late to get on board the Hurricanes Stanley Cup run.

Today was the beginning of the end.

Sustained systemic incompetence. We're a slightly shinier version of the Jets. I don't see how this gets better any time soon.

I know many disagree but I see winning arm talent from Darnold. The footwork, decision making, etc. that he needed to improve didn't improve from New York. Now I'm thinking he went from one bad coaching staff to another. Maybe he never had a chance and never will.

Yeah that's a good point. I know we need a lot of new things, but a strength and conditioning coach must be one of them. Forget technique, our offensive linemen seem to simply be physically weak.

Sounds good. You can take your playbook with you Joe.

Coaches don't count toward the salary cap.

With you dude. Yeah this sucks but there is talent on this roster. With some teams the cupboard is bare across the board.

And Deacs. I'm 2 out of 3 here.

Do I have a prediction? Yes. Yes I do. Panthers beat the dog crap out of the Giants. Huddle: ackshually, it was just the Giants. We still suck. Time to start a new Deshaun Watson thread.