Khyber53

Good luck with that. You're gonna need it.

Because, geez, the last time he gave away complete control of everything, it went so well. These last couple of years we've just been swirling around and around, I guess we better get ready for the flush.

Florida's commitment to quality education continues proudly!

I guess he got his Happy Ending afterall.

Nah. You gotta pay a guy better than that as a starter. And it would still be less than we're paying Darnold to ride the pine. Honestly, I think Kap's been away too long and I didn't think he was really that good. His Super Bowl appearance was greatly because of the tough games Alex Smith had won for the 49ers before Smith was lost to a concussion. Still, if he'll come here, play out the season and work at winning some games, $10 million would be a bargain for us and a big paycheck for him.

I'm sure the next team will be extremely happy with the five games he'll give them. Dude is the guy who takes the job and then starts calling in sick the next week.

If it gets us out of the train wreck that would be a trade for Watson, I'm all for it. Would he take $10 million on a one year prove it deal? Put an option for a second and third season for us in the contract and we can trade him away if the opportunity presents itself and set those years at $20 million each. Worst that could happen is that we have the bad season we're already predicting. Best is that we find out he can still play.

We're not a QB away. Even if Rhule was going to be here longer term, grabbing a QB now doesn't fix anything. A new steering wheel doesn't fix a broken down jalopy.

If the private investigator came back and said anything different than "there's a whole lot of allegations and no resolutions yet" then they need to can that investigator. The NFL investigation isn't even finished, and that could result in anything from clearing the man to a multi-year suspension.

Honestly, I was like, "yeah, this could be a really smart deal if it plays out." Man, did it ever NOT play out. Epic fail and I was wrong back then. Of course, me being wrong doesn't cripple a franchise, so...

Sadly, Rivera and Hurney have been better at finding and developing quarterbacks than our current regime is proving to be. Talk about only having to hop over a very low bar. Heinicke > Darnold and in what world would you have thought that to be the case three years ago?

You may very well be right about that.

Talk about a Confederacy of Dunces.

You mean there's still a "hold my beer" moment after the decision to keep Rhule was made?????

Good! Now if he can settle in and pick up where he left off, we're going to be fine there for a while. Reasonable price, too.

fug no. Let him take care of his legal issues first. All of them. And then get some counseling. And then get back into football shape. Then prove that contracts mean something to him by playing a season for the Texans before screaming for a trade. The guy did shitty things to women, to his team, his teammates and their fans. Let ol' Handjobs and Histrionics sit there in Houston.

We could have gotten another team's cast off for a lot less and probably gotten the same production (or lack thereof). For the life of me, I'm not sure why they spent actually manpower on working out this deal, much less cap space.

The smartest play is to go with what we've got in the QB room now and let it run its course. They traded real things for Sam Darnold and we need to trot him back out there, win or lose. We'll lose but that is what they built here. And before we get into the Deshaun Watson crap (and it is pure crap and would saddle us for years with no first round draft picks for a guy who may never see the field again), let's just realize that any QB brought in here is going to lose behind this offensive line and this team's coaching. Whoever comes in is a dead man walking. No top end free agent is going to risk that. Maybe a mid to low grade starter will if we put enough cheddar down, but no one serious. Play it out, don't mortgage tomorrow to save Rhule's sinking ship. If he can pull off a miracle, we might believe in Rhule again. But that's what it is going to take for us to get behind this coach. Grab a late round QB and throw him out there mid-season if we must. Get him some experience with an eye towards back up QB at a reasonable price, because neither Newton, Walker or Darnold are inexpensive back up options or are guys who can really be called upon to win one or two games in a pinch right now.

I think we need to start from the Center, but this guy wouldn't break my heart if he was the pick. That mean streak he has is something we need on the line.

Doesn't everyone start a podcast nowadays? Was really hoping to hear his real broadcasting gig was getting a promotion. Oh well.

Let's let the next coach decide if this is a good idea.

You're right about all of this. I do think, however, we have from Burns what we will get (unless the attention he garnered from o-lines was what broke Reddick free). And if this is what Burns gives us every season from here on out, he'll be fine and have a long career. Peppers was never the same without Rucker on the other sideline. If Burns is this generations Rucker then, yeah, we're good with that. YGM, I believe, is going to just be a rotational guy, but an important one. Fox as well. And Brown needs to make this his biggest year, either as a disruptive force or an immovable object. Leadership along that line is needed, too, as evidenced by the lack of strength vs the run. Luuvu was good, better back there than any LB not named Shaq Thompson. Can he be a starter for a whole season? I think I'd be willing to see it and see him develop. But I also want to see Chinn move back to LB where he had the biggest impact. Still, we're only going as far as our coaching and team building and that means we're not going far under the Rhule regime. Sad, but true.

I've wondered about that and thought maybe it was partly a case of New England wanting to get Gilmore off the books and out of the locker room, so we did them a solid in hopes of building a trading relationship for the future. Or we just kinda overpaid for a short-term resource because we weren't very savvy . That could just as easily be the case.

Um, not in the least. Cam couldn't function behind a bad offensive line during his career (2015's line was better on the field than it was on paper) and no one can mentor you on surviving behind a line when play designs take five to seven seconds to develop. We shouldn't take a QB this year unless it is late in the draft as a future back up. They build the line, they might salvage this coming season.

I'd postulate that sometimes bad coaches get players hurt. And Taylor's coaching should be commended. He and his staff made a team that was supposed to be a year or two away into something really remarkable. Burrow is amazing, but Matt Stafford was too in all those years in Detroit. Coaching matters.