Khyber53

Thanks for explaining that. I had it differently in my mind and it does change some of my thinking. I stand corrected. The rules of the salary cap are byzantine and incredibly malleable.

Because Cam owned the locker room, even if he couldn't play anymore. A new coach can't come in and have a player running the place. Even on a good team like the Packers, a diva can create massive resistance. On a losing team, like we were/are that rift is massive. Cam had to go, much like Smitty had to go to give Cam the leadership mantle.

If you could get that off your books and onto some other idiots, wouldn't you?

Those hits happen all the time. Teddy. Alex. Brady. Theisman. Cam. Luke. Delhomme. Really, in this game that's how most great players end their careers or end up as a shell of themselves. And then you're on the hook for those contracts. If we get Watson, I'll cheer him on. Not a problem. But there will always be the question if we'll be paying too much for him up and until that contract is over. There will also be the question of how bad that contract is going to hamstring the entire team over time.

Just let him get as many players in the draft and UDFA each season as possible and let him build. What he wants to build here doesn't come in a bottle and you can't buy it. So let's quit talking about doing that. Let the man do his work.

If you hated the Matt Kalil signing, you're really going to regret this one AND the draft trade implications. You mortgage your future drafts AND salary cap to get one player who is just one Alex Smith-type hit away from being out of the game ... and you are still on the hook for him. Fellas, if you just sit back and wait, Watson will start yelling louder about the trade, more teams will walk away with it and maybe Texas will be willing to trade straight up for Teddy just to get out from under the $82 million cap hit in 2022-2023 followed by another $37 million the next season. And there's no get out clause until 2025. That contract makes a Hurney contract look like a genius did it. The Texans were hamstringed by a bad coach that needed that QB and he (as GM) literally sold the team out to keep him. And then he got fired. Learning to move on from your own mistakes is something we all have to learn. Moving on from OTHER people's mistakes is vitally important! Just walk away from this train wreck.

I agree totally with what you said. I wasn't completely aware of the Robinhood shutdown's impact and the ramifications behind it. Thanks for educating me!

I've been calling Mac Jones for a while here. I still think he's the real prize out of this crop. Just not sure if he'll make it to the second round or if we'll trade back in the first and make a run at him then. Edit to clarify: Not to trade back INTO the first to get him, but to trade back from 8 to like 15 in hopes he's still on the board. Get our guy and pick up some extra capital.

K-Mart by the Sea.

Honestly, he's hoping that Rodgers does talk his way out of Title Town and that job opening pops up.

The house always wins in the end. Vegas wasn't built on winners. In all honesty, though, this is a good thing. A group of minor, wee minor, players got involved together to push the game in their favor and the big money players never saw it coming and didn't understand it when it did. Here's why it is good: Our system isn't rigged. That's right, our system isn't rigged. It does, however, have a byzantine set of rules, opportunities and pitfalls that have come to be exploited by those who have the money to fund massive research not just in companies and investment vehicles, but to research the underlying math, laws and game theory (heck even chaos theory) to get every edge possible. They then have the funding at hand to make massive investments where their profits are just pennies per unit, but create ongoing profits. Those moves and manipulations use billions to make millions every day creating virtual money machines. Moves like the Gamestop/AMC one can put a quake in the market. Nothing as financially devastating as the mortgage meltdown (and yeah, those big funds were the movers behind that), but something to make them take stock (no pun intended). Shake 'em up. Run a couple of the bad ones into the ground. It's sometimes important to harpoon a whale or two.

No. Please no.

Stocks outside of buy and hold is just a big monetary game of hot potato. Sooner or later the music stops and you get burned. Maybe this is really a good thing to happen to the market.

We are our own worst enemies here in the US.

Some fool will pay it, or close. Let's not be that fool.

We often don't.

And Palmer won what again? Carson Palmer is kind of like Dan Fouts or Philip Rivers... so much praise for him and his prowess, just a lack of wins and post season experience. Of course, there's Stafford fitting that mold. He seems like a great guy and if he ends up here, I'll cheer for him, but I just honestly don't see the major upside and trajectory changing guy in him that others do.

Sticking with cloth, but staying out of the line of fire for the most part. Save the supply of the strong stuff for the frontline folks.

Bienemey has the shortest off-season of any HC candidate this year, last year and is near the shortest off-season for the year before. He runs the most innovative offensive system in the league and between he and Reid they work up multiple new crazy plays for each game. The guy is prepping for his second Super Bowl in a row and considering the results so far, I'd think that planning for that was a bigger weight on his mind than prepping for an interview. Someone is going to see through that and snag him. Probably a team with a head coach retiring rather than a firing. Some team is going to start or continue a dynasty with Eric.

In teaching, there's this point after the school year ends that a portion of teachers get put into a big pool and moved on to different schools. Some want to go, some need to go, some need to be out of teaching, some are just headache employees. The reassignment of the teachers is called "The Dance of the Lemons" and some schools/principals get lucky and find a new gem. The rest are just hoping for someone who will do their job and show up. The rest just sit there are watch as the bottom end of the spectrum just gets dumped on them. But every one of those teachers will enter the dance with shining recommendations from their past principal as those prior employers want desperately for someone to snag them so they don't bounce back home. I think this year's QB free agency is definitely a Dance of the Lemons episode. Perhaps we ought to stick with our picks and sit this one out.

You know, honestly, I am beginning to see a worrisome parallel here. Two teams and two players trying to move along at a time when there's a change of coaching and leadership. And while Cam had been out and injured for almost the entire year, Stafford was reeling from three different injuries in 2020, even though he never missed an entire game. I'm beginning to feel that maybe there's something bad under the hood when it comes to Mr. Stafford on the used car lot that is the NFL offseason. And a lot like Cam, he could have some injuries that would spell the end of his career there if he can't find someone to take him on. I'm getting lots of "Buyer Beware" vibes on the whole thing. And no, we didn't need Cam's last ride to be here. Seeing how bad off he was in New England, he really should have hung it up and remained better in people's minds. That old line of "there's nothing sadder than a hero who doesn't know when it is time to hang it up" seems to apply. I love Cam, but this game is hard on players and almost no one gets to ride the train for as long as they want to. Ask Luke.

I've got that same feeling. They've got their sights on defense and giving Matt Ryan one last ride.

I'm not sure if anyone wins big here if our defense doesn't continue to improve. There were a lot of games we barely lost where the other team only had one or no punts -- and that is the sign of a bad defense. I think a lot of that was coaching timidity more than personnel and we got better in the last third of the season on defense (more aggressive) but ended up with Bridgewater pretty much falling off a cliff. But while we are on the subject of getting a new QB, how would you feel about snagging Heinicke as a QB3 here if he was available? That kid has the "it" factor and he'd outshine what we ended 2020 with on the bench.

Stafford is one of those unsung guys left in a bottom-dwelling franchise. And here we complain about how little respect Cam got. Talk about a difference. Stafford has been outstanding and if he had been in a better organization he'd have a ring or two, and I think he's still got a lot of good tread left on his tires. I also like that he has stuck with the Lions year after year until, well, it just got so low that no one could take it anymore (last season was bad and now they've hired an even bigger meathead for HC). If he came here, I think he and we would excel. My only worry is for how long it could last.

Jeez, are we all of a sudden crying over this again, too? Let it go. Just walk away and walk on. Better days ahead.