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Miles got a fairly inexpensive deal with us. And it could be a bargain if we got Double Trouble type production back there again...

Honestly, if we do take Bryce Young, I can see us taking a page from the Jaguars book and picking up the very talented running back that was in the backfield with Young, much like the safety blanket pick of Travis Etienne was for Trevor Lawrence -- one that paid dividends once coaching was improved. Jahmyr Gibbs out of Alabama is a fantastic running back and was a reliable protector, receiver and rusher alongside Bryce. Considering the way the draft seems to be falling out and the lack of interest in running backs, Gibbs could certainly be sitting there at 39 and I think would be a good return on the investment. Anything that makes the transition easier for Young will help everyone out.

What happens with Houston doesn't affect us in the least. Their pick goes their way and ours is ours. The two teams rarely play and the likelihood of a Superb Owl appearance pitting these two teams and QBs against each other is minimal. If Houston passes on QB at this level, odds on favorites to trade up to get Stroud would be Indianapolis and Tennessee, two more teams that we would almost never face and likely wouldn't in a Super Bowl. Stroud won't make it past the fourth, maybe the third, pick in the draft even if Houston passes. It's not a long term concern of ours, no matter how you do the math. That being said, I believe the NFC South and AFC South will go head to head in games for 2023, so there is a bit of a head to head potential there, but both QBs will be in their rookie season and one or both could conceivably still be sitting on the bench taking mental reps at that time.

And while we've got 99 problems, a QB ain't one of them anymore.

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He's taller than Steve Smith, Sr. and that guy kinda worked out for us I'd say.

One of my thoughts is that they have a second rookie QB out there that they want and perhaps think will be available way late or as UDFA. There are some really good options out there in the "who the heck are they" lists. Personally, I think you're going to see at least one day two or three QB pull a Brock Purdy and prove to be something pretty cool. My bet is that it is Max Dugan from TCU. Not saying he's be in my top 3 choices (Young, Stroud, Hooker) but he could be a gamer out there for someone.

There's quite a bit of truth to this. It's not like our vet QB or the third stringer we are trying to trade have any experience in this coach's system yet either. Although, I really do want to see them put Matt Corral out there during the pre-season and give him some reps with the first team in a game. Maybe he'll be good, maybe he won't, but we'd be doing the kid a solid either way and help him to find a home. This situation wasn't his fault at all.

Honestly, I agree with you here. Trying to get too cutesy or clever usually ends up badly. Just make the picks as we have them. Maybe trade up later on if there is a hidden gem sitting there about to get plucked away. No more trading down. We don't need quantity, we need quality.

Czarist Russia.

You can't have enough good offensive linemen. We've had too few before and we never want to be there again.

Don't bite the bubbles, man. It has always been about Young and Stroud since we made that leap, otherwise we'd have gone for the cheaper run at the Cardinals' pick and would have been able to keep DJ. And I'm willing to bet that three years from now, we're going to see that the 3rd best QB in this draft wasn't even taken in the first round, much less was it Richardson or Levis.

We did not trade away everything we did (the picks AND DJ) to trade down and take a guy that we had a shot at getting with the number 9 pick anyway. This isn't a smokescreen, these are fart bubbles in a tub -- don't be the guy who bites at them.

Prayers for continued recovery man, so glad to hear you're out toughing the massive difficulties. Stay strong!

He's one of the most intriguing guys out there. He's monstrously large and monstrously athletic. And you nailed the knock on him right there... does he have the skills to match up against very motivated professional players in the NFL? Still the intimidation factor alone... and the potential to be a TE or OT is a rare thing. I'm of the "if he's there in the second for us, we should roll the dice and take him. His floor seems to be back-up OT who can really make the Tackle Eligible announcement really screw up the defense's call at the goal line.

While Cam was great, he also really, really emphasizes how that kind of player can have both a dramatic, quick impact on a team and can also have a dramatic, quick exit from the league. Love him for who he was, but Cam was the proverbial bottle rocket... flew to the stratosphere and then bang, it's over and done with. It was a heck of a ride but this league eats up people, even the great ones, who are out there taking the hits.

I just don't want us to spend our pick chasing Cam Newton 2.0. There's only one Cam and we aren't resurrecting him with this pick.

And the last letters spell ULHOSS. IMBACK -- I'M back ULHOSS -- your loss Really, let's just move on.

And that, more than anything might be the tell of the tale. Was he just a business guy? And if so, Tepper probably has others he'd rather see there at this time. There's a lot that has gone on in those offices since they hired then fired Rhule than we will ever know. Being a holdover from the Richardson regime says a lot for him in that he stayed in the organization this long. Still, ends happen for everything. Best of days ahead for him.

^This 100 percent... don't promise someone the pick and then have to back out because something completely unforeseen happens. Let it be known a couple of days in advance of the draft and shift the attention to Houston. Until then, our name keeps being brought up on all sports channels, websites and twitter feeds. It's good, free public relations.

I think we are at the verge of a draft that may have the bulk of the next generation of great QBs. There are five guys with tons of potential and serious first round possibilities. And maybe even couple more good ones down in the 3rd and 4th rounds that could make some noise if they see the field. I think that if a team misses out on getting a QB this year, they'll regret it down the road. Not all of them can be winners, can they? Or maybe they can...

Cam sort of allowed us to run a triple threat option rather than a true RPO. That being said, I still think that over the long run the QB with better processing ability will beat out the more gifted athlete. So many times the athletic mobile QB creates a game of one vs. 11, rather than 11 vs 11.

They could also be rotating the heck out of them, providing even a Jumbo package on the DL at times. Or it could all be competition for the spot. That's going to be a stout grouping... like they can't all sit on the same side of the bus kind of thing.

Good insight!

Ding ding ding we have a winner here. Barno, Horn and Luvu are going to become names known around the NFL rather than just here in the Carolinas. Burns, Brown, Chinn and Shaq all have league-wide reputations. I think they will live up to those reps and thrive but the three you mentioned will really explode onto the scene if this goes well. Wouldn't it be nice to be a feared defensive team again???