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Rhule could not develop a rookie QB. Look at how Corral was handled. He was trying to take the easy way out with failed QB’s from other teams…Teddy, Sam, Baker. It is amazing how each QB was worse than the one before. The guy was completely clueless on how to manage an NFL team.

The Redskins did this when drafting RG3 and Cousins in the same draft. Crazy that Cousins was the 4th rounder and RG3 was the first. Also crazy they let Cousins go.

Agree with OP. Cam's rookie season in comparison to what we have now: Williams and Stewart for RB, #89, Greg, and Shockey along with a solid O-line (Gross, Wharton, Kalil). #89 had over 1,300 yards in Cam's rookie year. Any rookie QB thrown into this current offense would not be successful. Whoever they are targeting to be QB next year, they better start by getting him some weapons.

Yeah, look at the Super Bowl winners from last year.....LA Rams. They are 4-9 this year. There are no guarantees when parity reins.

There are so many to bad decisions to choose from. Just to be different, I will add a few from what was already said: 1. Keep Tyler Heinicke. Not a superstar but definitely playing better than any Panther QB has played in years. 2. Keep Gano.....How many kickers have the Panthers burned through since they cut Gano? 3. Don't trade for Darnold. If Heinicke was signed it would not have been necessary.

Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Tony Dungy and Pete Carroll were retreads after they got fired from their prior HC jobs. And all won superbowls with their new teams.

Definitely a Panthers strength. The Gross, Wharton, Khalil, Otah line was pretty strong in 2008 too.

I actually think the Panthers handled Cam the right way in his first season. Chud was a great OC for him and they brought in Olsen and Shockey along with a great running game (Williams and Stewart) and a good O-line. After year one the plan seemed to have fallen away...but that first year it was a good transition from college to NFL for Cam.

This defensive scheme was not successful with Rhule/Snow. The entire team was terrible today. New coaches will be here in January

This season is a lost cause. They are trying to win with fired coaches players that don’t fit the scheme they want to run. Nobody can defend what we saw today but it does not matter as a new regime will start in January.

If I’m not mistaken, I read somewhere that Wilks did not agree with the defense Snow built…one reason was he thought they were too light and needed more size.

Did Tepper re-hire Rhule?

Step one is to get the right coaching staff so they can pick their guy. Everyone thought Lawrence was a pro ready, can’t miss QB coming out of Clemson. Obviously he is still young, but he is not performing up to expectations so far. And Doug Peterson is an outstanding offense guy…. Zach Wilson also not doing great. Who knows about Trey Lance but so far not too good. I think a lot of these QBs success is tied into having the right coaches that can build a system around their strengths. Josh Allen fell into the Bills and they surrounded him with great coaching. Same with Tavares Jackson. Of course they have the talent but you also need coaching and be put in the right situation.

How much money did Rhule make from Tepper? Wow...just wow. To be that bad at your job and make that much money is insane.

This is a non-story. I actually thought this game was well officiated...for once. No stupid calls and no blatant non-calls. Actually the best Panthers 'officiated' game all year

If the defense even glances in Brady’s direction it is going to be a 15-yard roughing the passer penalty.

DJ up nearly 1,200 yards with Teddy B as the QB

It is very clear how the roughing the passer works in the NFL. All of the 'star QB's' will get the call every time the defense gets close enough to breathe on them. If you don't have a 'star QB' the defense can do whatever they want. If the defense gets within 3-feet of Brady, they will call it. They might as well play flag football.

Agree this is all on Tepper. He should have fired Rhule and the entire staff in January and hit a full reset for this season. This is a wasted season…

Technically that is the second interception that Stafford his thrown today.

The PI on Jackson was brutal as it negates the interception

This team has playmakers on offense and defense. The QB position has not been good, but this offense has solid to above avg WR's, solid Oline, and one of the best RB's in the game. TE would be an area of opportunity. If the QB could just play 'average', I say they win against Cleveland and the Giants and are 3-2 vs 1-4. Baker has been awful, and much worse than his play in Cleveland. Have to wonder if it is a scheme issue for him because he is surrounded by talent.

It is amazing how a billionaire (Tepper) and a multi-millionaire (Rhule) can make so many stupid mistakes. I think most of us were shocked at the huge contract for Teddy, the dumping of him, and then the big trade for Sam (giving up a early 2nd round pick), along with guaranteeing his 5th year option. Yet unbelievably, the Panthers actually did these things. I could see Tepper moving the Panthers away from the Carolinas 'due to not being able to get a new stadium or new practice facilities'. Not a fan of his.

Tepper does not come across as “likeable”. If his handlers were smart they would not put him out in front of cameras anymore.

My question is why is he so bad? He was not this bad in Cleveland. I believe that the offense the Panthers are running does not fit his strengths. McAdoo is on record saying he did not want to draft Baker. I wonder if he was forced on McAdoo even though he does not fit his offensive scheme. Also McAdoo’s offense looks terrible…why? I mean this guy has had some success in the NFL. I will be interested to see if Rhule was micromanaging the offense and that’s the reason why it looks so bad. I guess we will find out but with a 4th string QB it will be hard to know. This team has playmakers on offense and they have a solid O-line. This offense should not be this bad I have to wonder if Mcadoo and Baker are just a bad marriage.